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如果仅仅追求愉悦感会怎么样

What Happens When You Only Pursue Pleasure - Alan Watts

It’s a deeper question altogether which is what do you desire?
你想要什么?这是个较为深沉的问题
what makes you itch?
什么让你心痒难耐?
what sort of a situation would you like?
你偏向于处在什么样的境地?
what do you like
你想要什么
let’s suppose I do this often in vocational guidance of students
比如对学生进行职业指导时我经常这样做
they come to me and say well, oh
他们来找我说
we’re getting out of college and we have the faintest idea what we want to do
我们快毕业了却完全不知道自己想做什么
so I always ask the question
而我总是问这样一个问题
what would you like to do if money were no object
如果不以赚钱为目标 你想做什么
what would how would you really enjoy spending your life
你到底想以怎样的方式来生活
well it’s so amazing
答案很令人惊奇
as a result of our kind of educational system
在我们这种教育体制下
crowds of students say well
成群的学生说
we’d like to be painters
我们想当画家
we’d like to be poets, we’d like to be writers
我们想当诗人 我们想成为作家
but as everybody knows you can’t earn any money that way
但是众所周知 那样是赚不到钱的
or another person says well I’d like to live in out of doors life
或许也有人说 我喜欢户外生活
and ride horses
喜欢骑马
I said you want to teach in a riding school
我说 若你想在骑术学校当教练
let’s go through with it what do you want to do
那就去做你想做的事
when we finally got down to something which the individual says he really wants to do
当一个人终于开始做他说的真正想做的事时
I will say to him you do that and forget the money
我会对他说 去做吧 忘了钱
because if you say that getting the money is the most important thing
因为如果你说赚钱是最重要的事情
you will spend your life completely wasting your time
你就会蹉跎岁月
you’ll be doing things you don’t like doing in order to go on living
你会为了生计去做不喜欢做的事
that is to go on doing things you don’t like doing
也就是总要做你不喜欢的事
which is stupid
这很愚蠢
better to have a short life that is full of what you like doing
短暂但追求所爱的人生
than a long life spent in a miserable way
强过苟延残喘地活着
and after all if you do really like what you’re doing
毕竟 如果你真的喜欢你正在做的事情
it doesn’t matter what it is
无论它是什么
you can eventually turn it,
最终 你可以塑造它
you could eventually become a master of it
最终 你会成为这方面的专家
it’s the only way to become a master of something to be really with it
真正用心做一件事是成为专家的唯一途径
and then you’ll be able to get a good fee for whatever it is
接着 你就能因此得到可观的报酬
so we don’t worry too much that
我们不必过多地担心
that’s everybody’s somebody’s interested in everything
有人对任何事情都感兴趣
and anything you can be interested in you’ll find others as well
任何你感兴趣的事 也会有其他人感兴趣
but it’s absolutely stupid
但是把时间
to spend your time doing things you don’t like
浪费在不喜欢的事情上
in order to go on spending things you don’t like doing things you don’t like
让你的孩子重复你的老路
and to teach your children to follow in the same track
绝对是愚蠢的
see what we’re doing
看看我们正在做的
is we’re bringing up children and educating,
我们抚养孩子 教育孩子
to live the same sort of lives we’re living
让他们过着和我们一样的生活
in order that they may justify themselves and find satisfaction in life
通过抚养孩子来证明自己
by bringing up their children
在生活中找到成就感
to bring up their children to do the same thing
教育他们的孩子做同样的事情
so it’s all retching or vomit, it never gets there
这一切令人作呕 也不会成功
and so, therefore it’s so important to consider this question
因此 考虑自己想要什么这个问题
what do I desire
是很重要的
well when we answer that question in a naive way
当我们天真地回答这个问题时
we figure out that we want to desire what we want is to control everything
我们发现我们想要的是控制一切
to create girls that don’t grow old
想要创造出青春永驻的少女
apples that don’t rot
不会腐烂的苹果
clothes that never wear out
不会穿坏的衣服
conveyances that get from one place to another instantly
能够让我们瞬时移动的交通工具
so we don’t have to wait
这样我们就不用等待了
power available to do anything that you could conceive
拥有做任何你能想到的事情的能力
and do it just instantly like that
想到什么就能做什么
to get this funny technological omnipotence
就像获得了有趣的满点技能
but if you take time out to think about that
但如果你花点时间想想
and really go into it with your full strength of imagination
真正地发挥你全部的想象力去思考
and find out whether that’s where you want to be
想清楚那是不是你想去的地方
you will soon see that’s not what you want
你很快就会发现那不是你想要的
because the moment you have a situation where you are really in control of things
因为当你真正掌控一切的时候
that is to say in which the future is almost completely predictable
也就是说 未来几乎是完全可以预测的
you will see as I said last night
你会发现 正如我昨晚所说的
that a completely predictable future is already the past
完全可以预测的未来
you’ve had it
只存在于你已经拥有的过去
that’s not what you want,
所以这不是你想要的
you want a surprise
你想要的是一个惊喜
and you don’t know what that’s going to be
你也不知道那会是什么
because obviously it wouldn’t be a surprise if you did
因为很明显 如果知道了就不是惊喜了
you want a pleasant surprise
你想要一个令人愉快的惊喜
but like you say what sort of a surprise would be pleasant
但你会问 什么样的惊喜会令人愉快
and you can’t really answer that
你回答不出来这个问题
because you know if there’re to be such things as pleasant surprises
因为你知道 如果有愉快的惊喜
there must also be unpleasant surprises
也一定有不愉快的惊喜
so that’s be rude chops
生活并不总是阳光明媚
so you’re like somebody taking
就像是你拿着
one of those wishing well boxes you know
一个许愿箱
tubs you know will you fish in and you’ll bring out a package
可以钓鱼的桶 然后你拿出一个包裹
and you don’t know whether you’ve got a dead rat in it
你不知道里面是死老鼠
or a new camera
还是新相机
and that’s the way
而这才是
that’s that seems to be the thing that really excites people
而这似乎才是真正让人兴奋的事情
but quite certainly there comes out of this inquiry
但是 这一观点肯定让人
a feeling of real disillusionment with the ideal of power
对理想的权力产生了幻灭感
to be in power, to be in control
任何明智的人
is not something that any sensible person wants
都不会想要掌控一切
now you may say that shirking responsibility
现在你可能会说这是推卸责任
that if you were a really responsible person
如果你是一个真正负责任的人
you would go out for power
你会去争取权力
and try to use power it to the best possible advantage
并试着充分利用权力
for the benefit of all
去为大家谋福利
all right, what would be the benefit of all
好吧 所有人的福利是什么
ask them, what do you want me to do with this power
问问他们 你们想让我用这种权力做什么
I’m dictator, what would you like, well, nobody knows
我是独裁者 你想要什么 没人知道
because they haven’t thought it through
因为他们还没有想清楚
they think of all sorts of short-range things
他们考虑了各种各样的短期事情
and they are largely conflicting and confusing
并且大多是互相冲突和混淆的
because they’re not well thought out
因为没有经过深思熟虑
but again when it finally comes down to it
但是当它最终来临的时候
nobody wants to be God
没人愿意成为上帝
now I think that this is the greatest possible lesson
现在我认为这是西方世界
for the Western world to learn
可以学到的最好的一课
because we are so hung up on the idea of power of control
因为我们太过执着于掌控一切的力量
of being able to make everything go the right way
让一切都能朝着正确的方向发展
and we’ve never thought it through
我们从没认真想过
when you get control of it what are you going to do with it
当拥有控制权后 你打算用它来做什么
and so when you think things through like that you understand
所以当你那样仔细考虑之后你就明白了
you do not want power, don’t want to control over them
你不想要权力 不想去控制它们
and therefore in the exploration of what you want
因此 在探索你想要什么的过程中
you get to the point where
你发现
having all pleasures at your command
你掌握着所有的乐趣
and they tall
然后你厌倦了
and you think of new sources of pleasure
你又想到新的快乐源泉
and eventually you get like the ancient Romans
最终你会像古罗马人一样
who had all these mad crowds of barbarians
这些疯狂的野蛮人
who had to go every Saturday to the Colosseum
每周六都要成群结队地去斗兽场
for a show
去看一个
the, really had to surpass everything
真正超越一切的秀场
because they had public baths they had prostitutes
因为那里有公共浴室 有妓女
they had every kind of luxury
有各种各样的奢侈品
but when they went to see one of the big shows
但是当他们去看像尼禄这样的人
that people like Nero put on
举办的大型演出时
they would have, for example, floats circling the Colosseum
他们让斗兽场被彩车环绕着
all full of slave girls from distant parts of the Mediterranean
到处都是来自地中海偏远地区的女奴
who garlanded with flowers and waving at the crowd
她们戴着花环 向人群挥手致意
and going innocently around
若无其事地走来走去
in the next minute they would release wild lions
下一分钟他们会把野狮子
into the arena to eat up all the slave girls
放入竞技场中吃掉所有女奴
they got a big sadistic kick out of that
并从中得到强烈的虐待狂般的快感
because you see, pursuing pleasure beyond a certain place
因为你看 追求超越某种限度的快感
takes you in to what are the Buddhists call the Naraka world
会把你带入佛教所谓的奈落世界
that is to say the hells
也就是地狱
when you have explored pleasure to its ultimate limit
当你探索到了快乐的极限时
the only thing you can get a kick out of is pain
你只能从痛苦中得到快感
so naturally you descend from the devil world
所以很自然地 你从轮子顶端的恶魔世界
at the top of the wheel to the naraka world at the bottom
下降到轮子底部的奈落世界
where it shows all these beings in in states of torture
地狱里的所有人在遭受酷刑
you get to the hell world
你之所以会来到地狱
as a result of not knowing what you want
是因为你不知道自己想要什么
as a result of thoughtless pursuit of pleasure
是因为你盲目地追求愉悦
which ends you eventually in the pursuit of pain
而结局是你在追求痛苦
so when you’re in the hell, well, that’s where you want to be
所以地狱就是你的心之所向
so when I ask I go right down to the question
所以我会直接问这个问题
should be started with what do I want
从问我想要什么开始
the answer is I don’t know
答案是“我不知道”
when Bodhidharma was asked who are you
当菩提达摩被问及你是谁时
which is another form of the same question
这是同一问题的另一种形式
he said I don’t know planting flowers to which the butterflies come
他说我不知道种什么花会引来蝴蝶
Bodhidharma says I know not
达摩说我不知道
I don’t know whatever
我什么都不知道
well when you don’t know what you want
当你不知道自己想要什么时
you’ve really reach the state of desirelessness
你就真的到达了无欲无求的境界
when you really don’t know
当你真的不知道时
you see, there’s a there’s a beginning stage of not knowing and
你看 “不知道”有开始阶段
there’s an ending stage of not knowing
也有结束阶段
in the beginning stage you don’t know what you want
在开始阶段 你不知道想要什么
because you haven’t thought about it, or you’ve only thought superficially
因为你没有想过 或者只是肤浅地想过
and then when you somebody forces you to think about it
然后当你有人强迫你去思考这个问题时
and go through and say yeah I think I like this
你会思考 然后说我喜欢这个
I think I like that I think I’d like the other
我想我喜欢这个我喜欢另一个
as the middle stage
这是中间阶段的状态
then you get beyond that, say is that what I really want
更进一步 问问自己这真的是我想要的吗
the end you say, no I don’t think that’s it
最后你会说 不 我认为那不是我想要的
I might be satisfied with it for a while
我可能会满足一段时间
and I wouldn’t turn my nose up at it
我不会对它嗤之以鼻
but it’s not really what I want
但这不是我真正想要的东西
why don’t you really know what you want
为什么你不知道自己真正想要什么
two reasons, that you don’t really know what you want
有两个原因
number one, you have it
一是因为你已经拥有了
number two
二是因为
you don’t know yourself, because you never can
你无法做到了解自己
the Godhead is never an object of its own knowledge
上帝也不能认识自己
just as a knife doesn’t cut itself
就如刀割不了自己
fire doesn’t burn itself, light doesn’t illumine itself
火烧不到自己 光照不亮自己
it’s always an endless mystery to itself
对它来说 自己总是一个无穷无尽的谜
I don’t know
我不知道
and this I don’t know utter turd in the infinite
而这个“我不知道”
interior of the Spirit
是因为内部精神的无限性
this I don’t know
这个“我不知道”
is the same thing as I love, I let go
就如同 我爱你 但是我放手了
I don’t try to force or control
我不试图强迫或控制它
it’s the same thing as humility
这和谦卑是同一回事
anytime you as it were voluntarily let up control
在任何时候 你都自愿放弃控制权
in other words cease to cling to yourself
换句话说 就是你不再依附于自己
you have an access of power
你拥有了力量
because you’re wasting energy all the time in self-defence
因为你一直在浪费精力自我保护
trying to manage things,
试图解决事情
trying to force things to conform to your will
试图迫使事情符合你的意愿
the moment you stop doing that
当你停止这样做的时候
that wasted energy is available
你就获能得被浪费掉的能量
therefore you are in that sense having that energy available
所以 在这个意义上 你拥有了那种能量
you are one with the Divine Principle, you have the energy
然而 当你试着把自己当成神时
when you’re trying however, to act as if you were God
你就拥有了神圣的原则 拥有了能量
that is to say you don’t trust anybody and you’re the dictator
也就是说 你不相信任何人 你是独裁者
and you have to keep everybody in line
你必须让人人都遵守规则
you lose the divine energy
你失去了神圣的能量
because what you’re doing is simply defending yourself
因为你所做的都只是在自我保护
so then the principle is the more you give it away
所以原则就是付出的越多
the more it comes back
回报越多

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人为什么会乐极生悲?你知道自己真正想要的是什么吗?

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