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暴力动漫《剑风传奇》的哲学

The Philosophy of Berserk (Anime) – Wisecrack Edition

大家好 我是你们的老朋友杰瑞德
What’s up everybody? Jared again.
今天我们要讲的是
Today, we’re talking about a show
一个绝对会被YouTube排除广告投放的视频
that’s definitely gonna get us demonetized on YouTube:
《剑风传奇》
Berserk.
《剑风传奇》由同名漫画改编
Based off the manga of the same name,
是连载时间最长的漫画之一
Berserk is one of the oldest ongoing series out there.
该动漫于1997年首映
The anime premiered in 1997
在间断了20年之后重新回归
before going on in almost 20 year hiatus
其崭新的动漫风格引人争议
and has returned with a controversial new animation style.
不过这部动漫正在连载
Since the show is still going,
我们还无法完全解读这个信息
we can’t quite decipher the entire message here.
格斯踏上复仇之路 对抗神之手
So while Guts’ quest for revenge against the God hand.
格里菲斯的主题相当明确
Griffith deals with some fairly obvious themes ranging
从宗教信仰到自由意志
from religion to free will.
在命运的浪潮面前
大家都在随波逐流而已
我们在以后的视频再说这个主题
We’re gonna leave that for a future video.
今天要讲的是这部动漫中
Instead, we’re here to talk about the most visually obvious
视觉上最明显 哲学上最精妙的一面
and philosophically subtle aspect of the show.
没错 就是《剑风传奇》中重量级的暴力
That’s right, Berserk’s metric crap-ton of violence.
欢迎观看本期俏皮娱乐
Welcome to this Wisecrack edition on the
对《剑风传奇》中暴力哲学的解说
philosophy of violence in Berserk.
一如既往 前方剧透
And, as always, spoilers ahead.
我觉得“盲目的暴力”这个词
Now I know it might seem like the phrase
用来描述《剑风传奇》正合适
“mindless violence” was coined to describe Berserk.
但是在捆绑、调教、SM这些表面内容之下的
But what’s going on beneath the surface of its BDSM inspired angels
反派天使与可怕死亡 则相当高明
and gruesome deaths, is actually pretty smart.
《剑风传奇》是独一无二的
Berserk is unique.
使用暴力不仅是为了让我们恐惧 着迷
Not only in how it uses violence to horrify and mesmerize us,
同时也在改变着我们
but also to transform us.
为了弄懂《剑风传奇》里的暴力
To understand the violence in Berserk,
我们必须考虑一下它的风格
we need to consider its genre.
《剑风传奇》中有心理恐惧 宇宙恐惧
While the influences of psychological horror,
还有可怕的血色色情
cosmic horror, and even gore porn can be seen in Berserk,
该动漫尤其对“恐怖怪物”这个次文化情有独钟
the show specifically rests in horrors monster sub-genre.
据美学家诺埃尔·卡洛所称
According to Aesthetecist Noel Carol,
怪物恐怖有两个非常重要的暗示意义
monster horror has two very important implications.
1. 作为一种风格 恐怖可以让我们
1, horror as a genre affords us a critical distance
保持安全距离 避免过度沉迷
allowing for a safe space for fascination to take root.
简单说就是 现实生活中的暴力是不好的
Simply put violence in real life is bad.
但是荧幕上的暴力则是合适的
But violence on screen is kosher.
2. 荧幕上描述的怪物体现了卡洛所说的
2. the monsters depicted on screen embody what Carole calls
“反类型”
categorical violation.
它们有悖于传统的怪兽类型
They defy traditional categorizations and
出于同样的原因 人们对其又爱又恨
simultaneously attract and repulse for the same reason.
这两点是《剑风传奇》不会过时的原因
It’s these two points that make berserk so well preserved.
为什么我们亲眼看到格斯把人劈成两半还很淡定呢?
Why are we okay with witnessing guts literally slice people in half?
因为我们是在安全距离以外观看这种夸张的暴力
Because we view this over-the-top violence from a safe distance.
为什么我们觉得这些可怕的暴行如此吸引人呢?
And why do we find these awful acts of violence so compelling?
因为动漫中的暴力和主旨都否定了传统分类
Because violence in the show like its subject matter defy traditional categorizations.
典型分类的模糊化 以及由此产生的着迷与反感
This blurring of typical categories and the fascination
正是《剑风传奇》所极力传达的东西
and repulsion that it generates is berserks calling hard.
如同生与死般的鲜明对比
These binaries can be distinctions between life and death
比如格斯劈杀一群脆生生的骷髅
such as when guts mows down a group of animated skeletons
或是在使徒中 人与野兽的区别
or the distinction between man and beast in the Apostles.
但他们也可以更夸张一点
But they can also be less literal.
比如
For example,
摩兹古斯大人打着上帝代理人的名号
father Mozgus head bulging sadist extraordinaire
行虐待狂之实
claims to be an agent of God.
摩兹古斯实际上服务于恶魔
But is actually serving the demons.
他和他的乌合之众们甚至长出了翅膀
He and his ragtag team of tortures even gain wings
就好像他们真的是天使一样
as if they’re literally angels.
法尔纳塞小姐终于看清了她的秩序背后的真相
Lady Farnese, now seeing the truth behind her order
意识到他们的真面目
realizes what they actually are.
摩兹古斯大人 你的外形
天使吗?
不 更像魔鬼
甚至该动漫暴力的中心人物格斯
Even Guts, the epicenter of the show’s violence,
也体现了反类型的特点
embodies this idea of categorical violation.
他既是杀人犯 也是英雄
He’s both a murderer and a hero,
是宗教预言的客体
an object of religious prophecy
也是反宗教的改革者
and an anti religious Crusader.
原版漫画中 格斯作为神之手的祭品被烙印
In the original anime, Guts is branded as a ritual sacrifice
这是冥冥之中注定的
for the god hand a moment that was supposedly preordained.
标志已被烙印于你的皮肤
这是你作为祭品的标志
但格斯抗拒命运存活了下来
But Guts managed to defy fate and survive.
格斯是个宗教预言的客体
Guts is simultaneously an object of religious prophecy
却对信仰嗤之以鼻
and a middle finger against faith.
正如法尔纳塞刚开始对他的断言:
Or as Farnese originally sees him:
这就是黑色剑士
他的恶意是明明白白的
他是被写在启示上的人
那么格斯是如何看待自己的呢
And how Guts sees himself.
我习惯于首先行动
而非等待别人创造伟大的奇迹
你的教典就要让你失望了
对暴力的格斯来说
And much like the man himself,
他拥有反类型的标志感
Guts as violence possesses this trademark sense of categorical violation.
这让我们又爱又恨
It repels us yet attracts us.
既含兽性 又有教养
It’s animalistic yet refined.
当格斯披上“剑风铠甲” 模糊人兽界限时
This is most apparent when guts puts on the Berserker armor and
这种矛盾性最为显著
blurs the line between man and beast,
他的铠甲就是映照这一切变化的镜子
his armor even transforming to mirror this change.
当格斯发出粗鲁嘶吼 驰骋战场时
As Guts releases a savage cry and charges the battlefield,
你会忍不住注意这种引人注目的
you can’t help but notice the compelling,
精心设计的暴行
choreographed ferocity here.
正如他的对手格伦·贝尔特所说
As his opponent Grunbeld notes:
没有人穿上如此重的盔甲后还能提起这么大的剑
不 人类是不会那样移动的
当格斯第一回合就发出了致命一击时
And when guts delivers the final blow of the first bout
他的动作简直无与伦比地优雅
he does so with a grace that is more than anything.
哇 好美
Well, beautiful.
虽然看起来有点奇怪
While it might seem strange.
根据思想家约耳·布莱克的思想
According to thinker Joel Black
实际上暴力行为可以是美丽的
and act of violence can in fact be beautiful.
他在那本《谋杀的美学》中写道:
In his book “The Aesthetics of Murder” he writes.
能唤起崇高美学体验的人类行为
If any human act evokes the aesthetic experience of the sublime,
当属“谋杀”这一行为
certainly it is the act of murder.
如果谋杀是一种美学上的体验
If murder can be experienced aesthetically,
那杀人犯就可以被看成一种艺术家
the murderer can in turn be regarded as a kind of artist.
而行为艺术家或反艺术家
A performance artist or anti-artist whose
其实他们的专长不是创造 而是破坏
specialty is not creation but destruction.
当然了 我们不是在为谋杀点赞
Of course we’re not giving the thumbs up to murder.
但布莱克的观点是:
But Black’s point is that
当谋杀以正确的工艺 风格 力量展现出来
when performed with the right crafts style and force
几乎就能带给观众卓越的影响力
violence can have an almost transcendent effect on its viewers.
这是一个让我们感到敬畏
This idea that something can leave us in awe and
和穿越的想法
transcend understanding
也就是哲学家伊曼努尔·康德提到的“崇高”
is what philosopher Immanuel Kant referred to as the sublime
或者一种思想状态:
or the state of mind created
当特定体验不再是我们判断的客体
when a certain experience stops being an object of our judgment
它开始控制我们的判断时
and starts controlling it.
听起来很相似
Starting to sound familiar.
比如怪物恐怖
Like monster horror,
崇高有力量违背审判的目的
the sublime has the power to violate the purpose in respect of the judgment,
并将暴力诉诸于想象
and to do violence to the imagination.
它通过“反类型”的表达过程
It works through a process of categorical violation,
打破那些我们经常持有的观念的边界
breaking down the divisions between our commonly held beliefs.
那么《剑风传奇》是如何通过迫使我们重新考虑
So how does the sublime in berserk transform us
那些我们原本持有的观念来改变我们的呢?
by forcing us to reconsider our traditionally held ideas?
是美学
Specifically beauty.
通过比较新版和1997年版
Throughout both the new series and the 1997 version,
我们被暴力图像连番轰炸
we are bombarded with intensely violent images
它们拥有自己的美丽
that are in their own way beautiful.
当格里菲斯和他的英雄团队…呃 怪物团队
When Griffith and his band of heroes – er, monsters –
从侵略者库山族那里解放了维坦尼斯
liberate Virtanis from the invading Kushans,
格里菲斯的先知索尼娅这样评价这场劫后余波
Griffith’s seer, Sonia, comments on the aftermath.
一切都染上了红色
红如太阳 将光芒射于血泊
入目的应该皆是恐怖…但是并不
它像一幅画
美丽得无与伦比
这就是格里菲斯军队制造的冷酷死亡和破坏
Here the senseless death and destruction
这一幕让索尼娅受到冲击
wrought by Griffiths army overwhelms Sonia,
这种美挑战了
possessing a beauty that challenges her very idea
她对美的认知
of what beauty is.
通过引入崇高
Through tapping into the sublime
《剑风传奇》里的暴力频繁成为改变的工具
violence in berserk frequently becomes a vehicle for change.
索尼娅睁眼观看
Sonia opening her eyes to the
格里菲斯带来的耀眼的死
dazzling death brought by Griffith
然后终结了她在村庄里的生活
leaves her old life in the village behind.
跟随格里菲斯 踏上了他的成神之路
And follows Griffith on his journey to become God king.
但是《剑风传奇》审慎地确保了
But berserk is very careful to make sure
不使其展现的暴力
it doesn’t depict all violence
唤起人们的敬畏感
as evoke in this sense of awe.
事实上动漫里并置呈现了 格斯和格里菲斯的艺术化杀戮
In fact the show juxtaposes the artful killing of Guts and
以及普通暴力
Griffith with ordinary violence
但是并没有违和感
seemingly common to everyday life.
不管是村民投石头杀人
Whether it’s the villagers stoning someone to death
还是骑士坐在舒适的马背上鞭打娼妓
or a knight whipping a prostitute from the comfort of his horse,
这些时刻都极其
these moments are strangely
平凡 琐碎 寡淡
mundane, petty and underwhelming.
说到底 对于唤起崇高来说
In the end, these figures institutions
这些人物体系缺乏足够的技巧和艺术
lack the skill and artistry to evoke the sublime.
如果技巧和技术是
If skill and craftsmanship are the keys to
唤起整体敬畏和惊愕的关键
evoking total awe and wonder,
那么格斯就像是
then Guts can be viewed as something like a
一个暴力表演艺术家
violent performance artist.
那么在效果上 格斯的那种本能的血腥艺术
So what’s the effect of Guts as visceral and bloody art
是有更高的目的呢?
does it have a greater purpose
还是法国作家泰奥菲尔·戈蒂耶口中的
or is it just as French writer Théophile Gautier calls
“为艺术而艺术”?
art for art’s sake?
动漫中可能想让人往
While it might be tempting to think
为艺术而艺术这方面思考
it’s the latter.
不过格斯的暴行确实有更高的目的
Guts as acts of violence do have a greater purpose
它展现着社会暴力的丑恶本质
demonstrating the hideous nature of the societal violence
并从根本上摧毁它
and ultimately disrupting it.
通过展现艺术化和非艺术化的暴力
Through the distinction between artistic and non artistic acts of violence,
《剑风传奇》赞美了那些
the show glorifies those that work
和社会灰暗地带作斗争的行为
against the grey of society,
这和组织内部的单调残暴
contrasting them with the drab cruelty of the
形成了鲜明的对比
institution’s themselves.
最好的例子就是格里菲斯的重生
A prime example is Griffith when he’s reborn into the world.
他的重生实现了“完美世界的蛋”的愿望
Fulfilling the wishes of the egg of the perfect world to
却颠倒了世界秩序
upend the world order.
这个世界缺陷满满
那么多不公的死亡…
生之恐怖和痛苦
试图逃脱命运
秩序 被用来遮掩混乱
遍地虚假…
人类 被扭曲的秩序安抚
将死亡带给他人…
这个归因很正确
True to this cause.
格里菲斯和他的军队返回维坦尼斯
Griffith and his army take back Virtanis.
此时 格里菲斯是反社会的
In this instance Griffith is working against society,
他领导的突然崛起的叛军
his upstart rebel army ousting the Kushans
给了库山人致命一击
in one fell swoop.
但是一旦格里菲斯收复了法王厅所在的城
But once Griffith reinstates the Holy-see control of the city,
他就开始陷入已建立的权利结构
he becomes enmeshed in the established power structure.
暴力是剑风传奇世界里的家常便饭
Typical to the violence perpetrated by institutions
而格里菲斯之后的暴力则变得
Griffiths violence afterwards becomes
无味而粗糙
tasteless and crude.
当格斯及其团队随后到达城市后
When Guts and company arrive later at the city,
他们发现成千上万的奴隶贩卖者因叛国而被绞死
they find hundreds of slave traders hanged as enemies of the state.
这时就离美很远了
Far from possessing beauty.
这一幕是枯燥乏味的
This scene is sterile,
公式化的暴力令人反感
methodically organized and revolting tashieka.
和格里菲斯不同的是
Unlike Griffith though
格斯认为 暴力从不见容于伟大的社会体系
Guts says violence is never part of a greater societal system.
格斯只为自己而战斗
Guts fights only for himself
与一切为敌
making enemies out of whole armies
宗教 甚至是似神生灵
religions and even godlike beings.
事实上 格斯脖子上的烙印会对恶魔 信徒产生吸引
In fact the brand on Guts his neck attracts demons and apostles
不断迫使他抛弃社会
continually forcing Guts to abandon society.
第一集中
In the first episode
格斯试图融入社会
Guts attempts to reenter society
他同意与一个善良的男子及其女儿
by agreeing to take a carriage ride with
共乘一辆马车
a kindly man and his daughter.
格斯睡着了 结果他的烙印吸引来了恶魔
Guts falls asleep only for his brand to attract demons
屠杀了父亲和女儿
who slaughter the father/daughter duo.
格斯的生命被诅咒 他行走于社会边缘
Instead guts his cursed to live and act on the peripheries of society.
他的暴力成为加于世界的毁灭性力量
His violence becomes a destructive force upon the world.
此时所有的黑暗已在战场肆虐
Lady Farnese realizes this when she
看到眼前这一幕
becomes disillusioned with the Holy See,
法尔纳塞小姐开始有某种醒悟
as all Hell breaking loose on the battlefield
每当黑色剑士出现
它就会分裂
我所知道的世界
破碎了 裹挟着震耳欲聋的咆哮
格斯的暴力唤起了崇高
Guts’ violence invoking the sublime
成为瓦解现状的
becomes a powerful force that
强大势力
disrupts the status quo,
迫使人们重新理解自己的核心理想
and forces people renegotiate their core ideals.
对法尔纳塞来说
For Farnese
这导致她抛弃自己的岗位
this results in her abandoning her post
甚至自己的神
and even her God.
我要去追随黑色剑士
我要弃秩序于不顾
将艺术化暴力绑定到个人
In tying artistic violence to the individual
将非艺术化暴力绑定到社会时
and unartistic violence to society,
《剑风传奇》在挑战我们的认知
Berserk is challenging us on where we focus our attention.
我们将格斯的华丽光辉视作暴力
While we’re drawn to be shining brilliance of Guts as violence
而对日常生活中 发生在《剑风传奇》更大的世界中的
or seemingly blind to the everyday violence
暴力视而不见
that takes place in the greater world of Berserk.
作为观众我们期待那些
We as viewers live for the battle scenes
战争场景 暴力结晶
the crystallization of violence.
但我们忽视了阶级暴力的存在
But this ignores the existence of
也即特殊权力阶层
structural violence or the idea that certain power structures
能剥夺底层人民的基本需求
can prevent less powerful groups of people from meeting their basic needs.
我们来看看《剑风传奇》中那些被社会踩在脚下的人
True to form look who gets screwed over by society in Berserk.
伊斯多洛被赋予光荣的雇佣军服务员称号
Ishidoro is essentially forced into servitude, being the glorified
实质上是被迫服劳役
busboy of a mercenary group.
卡思嘉患上了精神疾病
Casca essentially a mental invalid
却被摩兹古斯大人选为祭品
is singled out for death by Father Mozgus
还差一点被一个
and almost raped by a strange
奇怪的羊头人强奸
fertility cult thing.
卢卡和一群年轻朋友被迫冒着生命危险
And Luca and her gaggle of young friends are forced to risk their lives
在大本营当娼妓
by working as prostitutes at the base camp
她们服务于军官
both servicing military officers while simultaneously
同时又害怕他们的裁断
fearing those very officers’ judgments.
《剑风传奇》挑战了我们
Berserk is challenging our ideas of
对“和平的真谛”的认知
what peace really is.
我们倾向于认为
We like to think that peace begins
战争终止 和平开始
when the battle stops,
也就是格斯不再用血刃刺穿对手身体时
when Guts has finished putting his opponents through the proverbial blender.
但我们不能将目光从格斯等人制造的
But because we can’t take our eyes away from his dazzling acts of violence
令人眼花缭乱的暴行中移开
committed by Guts and others,
所以我们无法留心或注意到
we’re unable to notice or care about all the other acts of violence
社会所犯下的暴行
committed by society.
在泛滥的战争间隙
It’s in the lulls between battles
《剑风传奇》向我们展示了它所处世界的
when Berserk decides to show us the artless and
非艺术化的令人厌恶的暴力
repulsive violence in the world around them.
当我们看到人被石头掷死
In these rare moments when we see people stoned to death
漫山遍野的死尸
or mountains of dead bodies
血液和肠子盈满湖泊 这些罕见场景
or even a lake of blood and entrails,
这些景象超出了我们的思想范围
we see the limitations of thinking that piece is
肉体的苦痛在战争或战役中不值一提
simply the absence of war or battle.
但是对这部充斥着
But for all those complex
复杂智慧的漫画来说
intellectual ideas,
如果你看完《剑风传奇》只记得
we don’t blame you if you only remember Berserk,
羊头人舔舐半裸女性
as the anime were an anthromorphic horse
我们也不会责怪你的
licks a semi-naked woman.
我们的YouTube频道由一些广告联盟赞助
And there goes the last of our YouTube adsense revenue.
感谢观看 再见
Thanks for watching guys peace.
感谢你观看俏皮娱乐
Thanks for watching wisecrack.
如果你想了解更多有关《剑风传奇》的内容
If you’re hungry for more Berserk,
当然你要移步至我们的好朋友那里
look no further than our friends over at vrv,
也就是Vrv网站
that’s vrv.
他们将向你提供7天的免费试用期
They want to give you seven days free to
你可以观看他们提供的所有节目
check out all the shows they’ve got to offer.
Vrv上有很多Crunchyroll之类的有趣频道
Made by the fun folks over at Crunchyroll
它的漫画服务能让你获得
Verve is a mega service that
Crunchyroll和Funimation等频道的无限制使用权限
gives you unlimited access to channels like Crunchyroll and Funimation.
所以你可以立即观看最好的漫画字幕和上载
So you can instantly watch all the best anime sub and up.
包括《七龙珠》《我的英雄学院》
Including Dragon Ball Super, My Hero Academia,
《黑色四叶草》《Boruto》
Black Clover, Boruto.
《食品大作战第3季》
Food Wars season 3
当然还有《剑风传奇》
And of course Berserk.
听起来还不错吧
And if you think that sounds great
Vrv还给本频道的粉丝们提供了7天的免费高清试用
Vrv is giving wisecrack fans 7 days of free
你可以免费浏览他们的10个频道
HD ad free viewing for all 10 of their channels.
不过当你购买组合包时 你就能随便观看了
And when you order the combo pack you get everything
你可以进入“Shudder”频道
that includes Shudder
观看恐怖视频
where you can get your horror fixed
这里还有Vev Select类别
and Vev Select.
你还可以在这里观看《哈萌大冒险》第一季
Or you can check out season 1 of Harmon Quest.
第二季的第一集也是免费的
And then get the first episode of season 2 for free
后续剧集将在太平洋时间
new episodes of season 2 launched at 3 p.m.
周五下午三点上传
pacific on Fridays.
所以请访问vrv.co/wisecrack
So head over to vrv.co/wisecrack
或者点击简介中的链接
or click the link in the description to get your free
获取Vrv网站的7日免费组合包
7-day Vrv combo pack.
你可以用笔记本登录
You can get it on your desktop
或者用手机
on your mobile,
Rokcom游戏机 PS机 Xbox游戏机也可以
Rokcom, PlayStation and Xbox.
感谢Vrv赞助本视频
And thanks to Vrv for sponsoring this video
我们有很多精彩视频
and we’ve got tons of great stuff on the way including videos on The
包括《表情奇幻冒险》《致命魔术》
Emoji Movie and The Prestige.
所以还没订阅的话一定要订阅哦
So be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already,
以上就是今天的内容 下次再见
that’s all for now catch y’all next time.
拜拜
Peace.

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视频概述

剑风传奇里的暴力为什么让人又爱又恨呢?

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翻译译者

ABC

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视频来源

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcFbh93tLxU

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