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斯坦·李的传奇人生

Stan Lee's Amazing Legacy | NowThis Nerd

2018年11月12日
On November 12, 2018,
95岁的斯坦利·马丁·利博去世了
Stanley Martin Lieber passed away at the age of 95.
以斯坦·李的身份被大家所熟知
Better known as Stan Lee,
他的生活态度和职业生涯对娱乐行业产生了不可磨灭的影响
he left behind a life and career that forever changed the face of entertainment.
“勇往直前吧 忠实的信徒们”
So “face front, true believers”,
我是Muse 而这是斯坦·李的传奇人生对我的启示
because I’m Muse and this is what Stan Lee’s legacy means to me.
对于李对世界所做出的贡献 我们该从何谈起呢
How do we begin talking about the impact that Lee had on the world?
让我们就从这部连环漫画书Creations谈起吧
Well, let’s start with this comic book Creations.
李的漫画生涯始于1939年
Lee’s comics career began in 1939,
当时他在时代漫画做着填充墨盒和派发午饭的工作
when he took a job filling inkwells and snagging lunches at Timely Comics,
这个公司就是后来的漫威
the company that would later become Marvel.
后来他转而开始了创作
He eventually transitioned to writing.
但是在50年代末
but by the end of the 50s,
李觉得有些才思枯竭
Lee was feeling a little burnt out
在创作完连载十年让多数人记忆深刻的 浪漫 惊悚 刺激的故事后
after composing a decade’s worth of mostly of mostly forgettable romance, action and horror tales.
他当时在考虑辞职
He was considering quitting
直到他的出版商给了他一个新的任务:
until his publisher assigned him a new task:
当时DC漫画正大受欢迎
DC Comics had a big hit on their hands
因为白银时代的超级英雄中队正义联盟正在盛行
with their Silver Age superhero squadron the Justice League,
而李的工作就是为漫威组建一个自己的工作团队
and Lee’s job was to come up with his own team for Marvel.
无论如何 他即将辞职
Since he was halfway out the door anyway,
李将它看做是一次重新定义超级英雄的机会
Stan used it as an opportunity to re-define what superheroes could be,
与著名的美国漫画艺术大师杰克·科比携手合作
and with the legendary Jack “The King” Kirby,
二人联手将一个不和谐的集体推向了世界
the two introduced the world to a dysfunctional family
在这个集体里 英雄们的内部矛盾并不比与恶势力的斗争少
that fought with each other almost as much as they fought evil,
同时他们并没有住在像Gotham和Metropolis这样的虚拟城市中
and lived not in fictional cities like Gotham and Metropolis,
而是一个不同于我们所看见的纽约
but a New York that’s not all that different from the view outside our window.
《神奇四侠》不同于动漫迷所了解的其他角色
“The Fantastic Four” was unlike anything comic readers had ever seen,
李和科比致力于打造一个属于另类英雄的世界
and Lee and Kirby parlayed their success into an entire universe of offbeat heroes.
《X战警》《绿巨人》与唐·海克的《 钢铁侠》《 雷神 》《托尔》《 复仇者联盟》等等
Together the two created the X-Men, the Hulk, Iron Man with Don Heck, Thor, the Avengers and more,
在和史蒂芬·迪特科合作时 李创造了《奇异博士》以及最负盛名的漫画人物
and with Steve Ditko, Lee gave birth to Doctor Strange and his most famous co-creation
《超凡蜘蛛侠》
The Amazing Spider-Man.
什么?
What?
蜘蛛侠?Pam 等会儿再聊
Spider Man? Pam, hold my calls for a while.
我觉得我应该疯了
I think I’ve finally gone crazy!
斯坦·李的工作团队设计出后来被称作“漫威法”的工作方式
Stan Lee artists developed what would later be called the “Marvel Method”
李会先和他们一起讨论故事梗概
where Lee would brainstorm a brief synopsis with the artists,
然后让他们去构建和绘制形象化的故事情节
let them construct and plot the story visually,
在插图完成后 最后填写对话和说明
and then go back to fill in the dialogue and captions once the illustrations were complete.
这种精妙的合作流程
It was a brilliant, collaborative workflow
创造出了一些最具标志性的漫画人物
that gave birth to some of comics’ most iconic character.
但历经多年
But over the years,
这也直接导致了信任危机的出现和同事的不满
it also led to a lot of disputed credits and disgruntled co-creators.
比如 传言有一天
For example, legend has it that one day
李告诉科比 让神奇四侠去与上帝抗争
Lee told Kirby to “have the Fantastic Four fight God”,
因此 创造了行星吞噬者Galactus
which led to the creation of the eater of worlds, Galactus.
但当李看到这个人物的终稿
But when Lee saw the final art,
他仿佛看到一个奇怪的铬合金生物在太空中翱翔
he noticed a curious chrome creature soaring through space:
银影侠
The Silver Surfer.
这完全是科比的创作 但是因为李提供了故事背景
He was entirely Kirby’s creation, but because Lee provided the words in the backstory,
所以他和美漫帝王共享了荣誉
he shares the credit with the King.
事实上 银影侠是斯坦·李最喜欢的角色之一
In fact, the Silver Surfer became one of Lee’s favorite characters,
在漫威有一个不成文的规定 只有斯坦才有资格写他
there was an unwritten rule at Marvel that only Stan was allowed to write him.
随着时间的流逝
As time went on,
漫画团队开始对李独享所有荣耀感到不满
the comics community began to resent Lee for hogging all the glory,
但你会想 除了这个以外
but you gotta understand, above all else,
斯坦·李是公司的一员
Stan Lee was a company guy.
他是漫威公司的活招牌
he was the living, breathing face of Marvel Comics,
在最后的日子里 他成为了焦点人物
and at the end of the day, he was kind of a publicity hound.
很容易引起主流媒体的集体关注
It was easy for the mainstream media to give Stan all the attentions,
只是因为他是如此引人注目 如此迷人
simply because he was so visible, and so gosh darn charming,
李常常毫不犹豫地跟那些不知名的同事分享荣誉
But Lee was always quick to share the credit with his less well-known co-creators.
大家总认为这些手稿是我一个人的
They think that the scripts were just mine,
但是如果没有跟我合作的艺术家们 这些手稿就一文不值
but they would have been nothing if not for the artists that I worked with.
我只是把人们的想法转变成文字
I just put the words in the people’s mouths,
创作出了故事的原型
I may have come up with the original idea
但在那之后的都是大家的合作成果
but after that it was a partnership.
所以他们当然值得这些赞誉和酬劳
His collaborators absolutely deserve all the accolades and royalties
那么多年以来 他们一直不为大众所知
they were denied throughout the years,
不过这也无法否定斯坦·李的功劳
but that shouldn’t take away from Stan’s achievements, either.
如果只有迪特科的设计 蜘蛛侠还会获得成功吗?
Would Spider-Man be a success based solely on Ditko’s design?
当然也很有可能
Quite possibly.
不过 是斯坦·李给了彼得·帕克生命
But it was Stan who put words in Peter Parker’s mouth,
赋予他个性 让一个无用的倒霉角色
gave him a personality and made him the nebbish,
成为全世界的挚爱
down-on-his-luck character that the entire world fell in love with.
斯坦·李的塑造角色的能力是无人能及的
Stan Lee’s skill at crafting compelling characters was second to none,
因此最终他成就了他自己
so much so that he eventually became one himself,
同时 他也拥有了一些十分忠实的读者
and in the process, transformed his readers into a tight-knit community.
除了有缺点的英雄和出色的反派外
Besides flawed heroes and fantastic villains,
李还有一个鲜为人知的创新是
one of Lee’s lesser-known innovations was
让漫威的整个团队都可以发声
creating an editorial voice for Marvel as a whole.
在斯坦·李之前 漫画粉丝和作者之间并没有太多的互动
Before Lee, there wasn’t that much interaction between comic fans and creators.
当然也会收到少许的来信
Sure there’s the odd letter page or two,
但重要的是 读者与那些为钟爱之书
but for the most part, readers didn’t have a relationship with the people
而创作 绘图和编辑的人并无互动
who were writing, drawing and editing their favorite books.
李改变了这一切
Lee changed all that.
他要求将工作人员的名单单独刊登出来
He mandated credits on opening splash pages
告诉读者每个工作人员的职责
to shout out everyone who worked on an issue,
不仅包括作家和艺术家们 还有那些动画扫图员和文字书写员
not just the writer and artists but the inkers and letterers, too.
这还不止 他还给所有人难忘的昵称
Not only that, he gave them all memorable nicknames,
像是爱开玩笑的杰克·科比 花哨的约翰·罗密塔 害羞的史蒂芬·迪特科
like Jolly Jack Kirby, Jazzy John Romita, and Shy Steve Ditko.
漫威的员工都变得鲜活有趣
Marvel’s staff became a bullpen of colorful creatives
粉丝也因此逐渐对他们有所认识
that fans grew to know on a first-name basis,
同时读者们也成为了忠实的信徒
and readers became True Believers,
并且能以一种空前的方式接触到他们的英雄们
who could interact with their heroes in unprecedented ways.
如果你能从漫画的细节中指出错误
If you spotted a continuity error that slipped through the cracks,
你可以写下来再附带一个有趣的解释 会因此而获得“No-Prize”奖
you could write in with a clever explanation and win a No-Prize for your efforts.
或者 如果你想要表现你的狂热
Or, if you wanted to show off your fandom IRL,
你就可以加入快乐漫威游行社
you could join the Merry Marvel Marching Society
并且花1964美元就能买到包含所有角色的一套挂件
and enjoy all the swag one 1964 dollar could buy.
我想要读者们都能有一种感受—-他们是我们的一部分 我们的核心
I wanted our readers to feel they’re part of a group, an inner circle,
并且我们拥有着在世界其他地方感受不到的快乐
and we’re all having a lot of fun that the rest of the world doesn’t know about.
斯坦·李开设的”牛棚公告”让大家了解到了漫威的内部工作
Lee’s Bullpen Bulletins became a window into the inner workings of Marvel,
公告栏遍布的新闻 无数的内部糗事 还有心灵鸡汤
filled with news, endless inside jokes, and evocative editorials,
甚至出现了英语历史中最伟大的头韵使用
and some of the greatest use of alliterations in the history of the English language:
准备好哦
Alright.
一部关于烧脑言论和烧脑哲理的烧脑大杂烩
“A Profound Potpourri of Perplexing Pronouncements and Preposterous Philosophy,
所有的预兆实际不代表现实!
all Portending Practically Nothing! “
一份全是外表珍奇却毫无价值的巨大珍宝
or “A Titanic Treasure-Trove of Traumatically Tempting Tid-Bits
聚在一起优雅地戏弄和逗弄你
Tastefully Tossed Together to Tease and Tantalize Thee! “
或者 非凡的的物品和非凡的重要的非凡的信息
or “Incredible Items and Inconceivable Info of Inestimable Importance!”
领会到头韵的魅力了吧
You get the idea.
《斯坦的肥皂盒》也在牛棚公告中诞生
Also buried in the Bulletins was Stan’s Soapbox,
在这里李的创意得到充分地展现
where Lee’s voice really shined.
他成为了最厉害的制作人
He became the ultimate hype man,
他译制的“思想之屋”
breathlessly exhorting the superiority of Marvel comics,
令人叹为观止
which he dubbed “The House of Ideas,”
经常戏称DC公司为“杰出的竞争对手”
and constantly ribbing DC, or, as he called them, the “Distinguished Competition.”
你弄坏我的蝙蝠侠战车了!
You broke my Batmobile!
弄坏了?还是说我让它变得更好了?
Broke? Or made it better?
要想阅读《斯坦的肥皂盒》是不可能的
It was impossible to read Stan’s Soapbox
所以在他还没有签下自己的标志性座右铭时 不要急于抢购下一期
and not rush out to grab the next issue the second he signed off with his trademark motto.
从纽约洲引用一个词:
Borrowed from the great state of New York:
精益求精!
Excelsior!
这是一个非常棒的企业宗旨 但意义不止于此
It’s a brilliant bit of branding, but more than that,
它预示着如今的漫画行业是好或坏
it foreshadowed today’s environment for better or worse,
艺术家不再高不可及
artists are more accessible than ever.
我会说 把漫画发展为更受尊重的传播媒介
I would say that’s my principal objective,
是我的主要目标
to sort of elevate comics to the point where they’re a more respected medium of communication
并且 让读者不仅仅局限于儿童
and not thought of as merely something for young children.
斯坦·李利用自己的平台
But Stan used his platform
不仅仅只是提高了销量和品牌知名度
for more than just driving up sales and trashing Brand Echh.
不是现在 斯坦·李!
Not now, Stan Lee!
精益求精!
Excelsior!
他还把漫画变成了变革的媒介
He also transformed comics into a medium for change.
最近 关于漫画是否太政治化的争论很多
These days, there’s a lot of debate over whether comics have gone too political,
他们是否在通过有趣的故事来反映政治观点
whether they moralize at the expense of an entertaining story.
但如果你去问斯坦·李
But if you asked Stan,
他会直接告诉你 深植于漫画的核心是政治
he would tell you straight up that politics are built into the very core of comics.
在那个时候 没有人认同军工联合体
At that time, everybody was turned off with the military-industrial complex.
仅供娱乐 我觉得我应该创造钢铁侠
Just for fun, I thought I’d make Iron Man,
一个军工联合体的象征
a symbol of the military-industrial complex,
而且我要让读者喜欢他!
and I’d make the readers like him!
他写道 :“没有信息的故事
“A story without a message, ” he wrote,
就像是一个没有灵魂的人……
“is like a man without a soul…
我们当中没有一个人生活在真空中
None of us lives in a vacuum,
也没有人不被自己每天发生的事情影响
and none of us is untouched by the everyday events which shape out stories,
正是它们构成了我们的生活”
just as they shape our lives.”
正如李所说的
And, true to his word,
李通过他的漫画解决现实中的问题
Lee tackled the issues of the day within the pages of his comics,
尤其是蜘蛛侠
particularly Spider-Man.
我试着将他放到真实世界里
I tried to put him in the real world,
给予他一些普通读者能够感同身受的东西
and gave him the kind of things that regular readers could relate to.
在典型的一些恶性事件中
On top of his typical rogues gallery,
蜘蛛侠都在处理一些曾在头条新闻中出现的事件
Spidey found himself dealing with ripped-from-the-headlines issues
就像越南草案 校园骚乱 和比较出名的毒品案
like the Vietnam draft, campus unrest, and famously, addiction,
当美国政府任命李在蜘蛛侠中加入禁毒的故事时
when the US government commissioned Lee to write an anti-drug story in Spider-Man,
他在漫画审查局的反对下发表了这个故事
and he published it over the objections of the Comics Code Authority,
而这改变了审查机制
forever defanging the censorship board and freeing up abroad
使得更多探索打破常规和改变人生的主题被广泛传播
to explore topics that pushed boundaries and change lives.
在他所处的时代 李的工作十分具有代表性
His work was very symbolic of the era that he lived in.
他一定程度上将正在发生的很多东西
He really sort of took a lot of the stuff that was happening
融入角色中
and fused it into these characters.
在公开表示各种形式的厌恶和偏执时
On top of denouncing hate and bigotry in all its forms,
李同样是一位强有力的代表人物
Lee was also a strong champion of representation,
他参与创造了许多漫画界的第一次和伟大的反派角色
co-creating some of comics’ first and greatest Black characters,
像罗比·罗伯逊 人称猎鹰
like Robbie Robertson, the Falcon,
当然还有黑豹
and of course, Black Panther.
另外提一下 我这个视频中所有的一切
By the way, literally everything I talked about in this video,
都发生在1972年之前
happened before 1972.
好吧 60年代很有趣 现在我也能乐在其中
Well, the 60s were fun, but now I’m payin’ for it!
我们只触及了斯坦·李漫长复杂生活的表面
We’ve only scratched the surface of Lee’s long, complicated life,
在他的晚年 也爆出了一些麻烦事
which, towards the end, was rocked with some troubling developments.
在他生命中的最后几年里
During the last few years of his life,
他曾被多名女士指控性失德
Lee was accused of sexual misconduct by multiple women.
并且 随着他身体每况愈下
Also, as his health deteriorated,
他的家人 朋友和徒弟们
his family, friends and hangers-on allegedly engaged
都涉嫌参与一系列欺诈他惊人财富的阴谋
in a series of schemes to swindle his staggering wealth.
斯坦·李生命的终章让人唏嘘不已
It’s a disheartening final chapter to Lee’s story,
但是他留下的传奇人生无人可比
but the legacy he leaves behind is bigger than any one man.
他创造了那些让我们为之疯狂的超级英雄们
In helping create superheroes who thrilled and entertained us.
斯坦·李也传递给我们力量与责任
Stan Lee also taught us about power and responsibility,
以及接纳怪异 拥抱使我们与众不同的东西
about being weird and embracing what makes us different,
还有 不管世界想让你如何 要坚定信仰
and about staying true to your beliefs no matter what the world wants from you.
对我而言
On a personal level,
他作为一个作家 也给我带来了巨大的影响
he’s been a massive influence on me as a writer,
要是你是怪咖的忠实粉丝 你会发现我对精妙的头韵的喜爱
as you longtime Nerd fans may be aware from my attachment to awe-inspiring alliterations
这是我从斯坦·李身上学到的东西
that I adoringly adopted from him.
说实话 他是20世纪最重要的作家之一
Honestly, he’s one of the most important writers of the 20th century,
但远不止于此 他无穷的热情和无限的魅力
but more than that, with his endless enthusiasm and copious charm,
让斯坦·李像是一个朋友
Stan Lee felt like a friend.
你知道吗 我认为每个人都改变世界
You know, I guess one person can make a difference.
言尽于此
Enough said.
感谢收看NT极客 我真的很希望我不用制作这个视频
Thank you watching Nerds, this is one video I really wish I didn’t have to write.
我想知道你们最喜欢的斯坦·李的记忆是什么
I guess all I want to know is what is your favorite Stan Lee memory.
有没有 触动自己的特别的故事呢
Do you have a specific story that touched you,
一个你喜欢的配角 一段采访 一个瞬间 任何东西都行 留下你的评论
a cameo that you loved, an interview, or moment, anything, leave a comment.
让我知道 欢迎大家订阅NT极客
Let me know, please subscribe to NowThis Nerd.
希望你一路走好 斯坦·李老爷子
and rest in peace, Stan Lee.

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斯坦·李作为漫威的“活招牌”,在漫画界的地位首屈一指,他的传奇人生是如何开始的?你有没有什么特别的关于斯坦·李老爷子的回忆呢?

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