It’s very unfortunate when you inadvertently find people agreeing with you who they’re
the last people who wish to agree with you.
I mean I despise Trump.
I despise everything that he stands for.
But it’s perfectly true that many people think that I ought to be on his side because
因为 他对穆斯林采取了严苛的 偏执的 可怕的政策
he has these draconian illiberal horrible policies towards Muslims, trying to stop Muslims
entering the country.
What a horrible thing to do.
多么无礼 不明智 偏执 残忍的一件事
What an impolite unwise illiberal inhumane thing to do.
And so I’m embarrassed if people on the alt-right agree with something that I say
for the wrong reasons.
科学中 关于宗教所说的灵魂 并没有太多研究
There’s not a great deal about religion in science in the soul.
Most of what I have to say about that is in my earlier book The God Delusion, so I can
rehearse that if you wish.
对我来说 作为一名科学家 主要的论据是具有科学性的
To me as a scientist the main argument is a scientific one.
I think that the hypothesis that the universe was created by a supernatural intelligence
是一个科学假说 但是一个糟糕的 错误的假说
is a scientific hypothesis, it’s a bad hypothesis, it’s a false hypothesis, but it has to be
judged on its scientific merits.
The universe would be a very different kind of universe if there was a supernatural creative
intelligence in it than if there wasn’t.
So much of my argument is a scientific argument.
There is no positive reason to believe in anything supernatural.
If you look at all the reasons that have been offered none of them stand up, none of them
We have in the form of Darwinian evolution we have a superb theory of why living things
have come into being, why they are the way they are, why they look as though they’ve
been designed and they undoubtedly do look as though they’ve been designed.
The illusion of design in living things is immensely powerful and it’s no wonder that
until Darwinian came along almost everybody believed that it was created by a supernatural
但是现在 我们有了达尔文 有了他的继承者
But we now have Darwin, we now have Darwin and his successors.
We now know how life came about.
生命的复杂 美好 高雅和生命是被创造的错觉 到目前为止
And the complexity and the beauty, the elegance and the illusion of design of life has always
been by far the most powerful argument for the existence of supernatural gods and that
is completely blown out of the water.
第二个争论是 宗教是否有 有害的 不好的影响
The secondary argument is whether religion has evil effects, whether religion has bad
effects and on balance I think it does.
The real problem is that religious faith prides itself on not needing support.
You can’t argue somebody out of their faith they simply say that’s my faith you have
to accept it.
并且 这意味着 如果他们的信仰 他们的宗教教育他们
And that means that if their faith tells them, if their religious upbringing tells them that
他们必须做坏事 比如炸毁东西 杀判教者 把同性恋从高楼扔下
they must do bad things like blow things up, kill apostates, throw gay people off high
等等 如果宗教告诉他们这些 那你不能说他们违背宗教
buildings, et cetera, if their religion tells them that then you can’t argue them out
因为这来自他们的信仰 而信仰 根据定义 是没有争论的
of it because it comes from their faith, and faith by definition has no argument, faith
信仰背后隐藏的说法是 不 这是我的信仰
by definition and shelter behind the wall that says no it’s my faith I don’t have
我不需要为它辩护 它就在那里 它就是信仰 我认为这可能十分罪恶
to defend it it’s just there, it’s just faith, that I think is potentially very evil.
That’s very far from saying that every religious person is evil.
当然 许多人因为他们的信仰做好事 并且那很棒
Of course, many people do good things because of their faith and that’s great, but the
fact that faith can lead to and does lead to significant numbers of evil things and
the horrific repression of women, for example, in certain theocracies and of gay people in
在某些国家 判教者被判死刑 音乐 艺术和乐趣受到令人不快的压抑
theocracies, the sentences of apostates to death, the joyless suppression of the music
and art and fun in certain countries because of religious indoctrination, religious faith,
the fact that this can follow from religious faith the people who do these awful things
不认为这些事很糟 相反 他们认为自己在做好事 在遵从正义
don’t think they’re terrible they think they’re doing good, they think they’re
being righteous, they think they’re obeying the will of their god and that they’re going
to go to paradise because of it, that I think because it has the potential to be evil we
have to regarded that as an evil.