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如何做正确的电影暴力

Movie Violence Done Right

沙恩·布雷克的新作 《耐撕侦探》刚上映 一件好事就发生了
So there is a great scene near the beginning of Shane Black’s The Nice Guys.
顺便一提 大部分人应该在电影院已经看过了
Which more people should’ve seen in the theatres, by the way.
你知道吗 去他的《愤怒的小鸟》
You know what, fuck the Angry Birds.
无论如何 我们的瑞恩·高斯林 扮演一位私家侦探
Anyway, where Ryan Gosling, a private investigator
破门摸入家酒吧来偷点东西
breaks into a bar to get his hands on some of the seats
就像我们在电影中看到人们做了无数遍的那样
like we’re seeing people do a million times before in movies.
高斯林敲碎了玻璃
Gosling is gonna break the glass
从里面把门打开
to unlock the door from inside.
但是事情不像预期那样发展
But things really don’t go as planned.
—我们知道他们能做到的 加油!
-We know they can go. Hurry up!
除了作为滑稽的剧情反转
Besides being a hilariously funny reversal
和对陈词滥调的颠覆
And subversion of an old cliche
我认为 这个片段表现了沙恩·布莱克内心
I think this moment gets to the heart of Shane Black’s
对笨拙暴力的兴趣
interest in awkward violence.
比起那些总是用暴力的战争场面凸显文明的影片要深刻得多
And deeper than that in film the wars of session with violence as the undying backdrops to civilization
说到影片背景 你可能对沙恩 布雷克不太熟悉
Speaking of backdrops, you may not be familiar with Shane Black.
但他已经默默在好莱坞做工作了30年了
But his work has been in the backdrops of Hollywood for 30 years now.
在八九十年代末期和二十世纪初剧本爆发的年代开始从事作家工作
Starting as a writer during the spec scrip boom of the late eighties ninties and early 2000
当时对来路不明的原创剧本的要求相当高
when unsolicitied original scrips were in really high demand
布雷克陆续创作了致命武器1和2 终极尖兵
and Black wrote Lethal Weapon one and two, The Last Boy Scout,
特工狂花
The Long Kiss Goodnight
接着为导演编写剧本 电影有
Then went on to director’s written working films like
《小贼、美女和妙探》
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
以及《钢铁侠3》
And Iron Man 3
最后是《耐撕侦探》
And finally, the Nice Guys.
所有这些电影都传达了同一个理念
All of the films share similar themes
都有新生代演员加盟
All have fresher characters all take place.
在危险时刻都会骂脏话
In dangerous often simi worlds.
都有超快的大反转
All have whip-fast plots reversals.
背叛和许多人物性格黑化
betrayals and plenty of character revealing venter.
换言之
Another words,
它们都有电影王国的特质
they all share the traits of film the world
我想 有一个特定的疯狂行为
There’s a certain madness, I think
和一个特定的
and a certain
对黑色电影中怪诞的暴力情节来说
bizarre quality to violence in noir films,
是毁灭性的
where it’s devastating.
这不仅仅是不间断的
It’s not just ongoing.
不仅是聪明的
It’s not just clever.
是毁灭性的
It’s devastating.
这时候 我们显然不喜欢这些电影中的暴力情节
At this point, we’re clearly not liking in violence at the moives
但清心寡欲的电影没有市场
But straight temple films are a wash in the stuff of
爆炸 撞车 追逐 打斗
explosions, car crashes, chases, fights,
凡是你能说出的
you name it.
有些导演和协调专员十分擅长这个 比如美国队长电影
There are some directors and some coordinaters are really good at it, for example the Captain American franchise
依我看 完成了超级英雄暴力中一种十分强烈的打斗形式
as I think, has masterd a very sharp part hitting type of superhero violence
而其他电影就很难做到这个
where other franchises have struggle to meet that bar.
但他们认为超级英雄电影中的暴力是
But they think about violence in superhero films is that
很有趣但并不十分重要
it’s fun but never really that consequencial
特别是 如果是英雄之间的对决
Particularly, if heroes is fighting heroes
拜托 黑寡妇
Come on, Black Widow
你知道这些人是被强迫的就像
You know these people are slaved to like
20 22对吧?
twenty twenty two, right?
许多电影把暴力元素混合
A lot of these films add violence to the mix
每二十分钟给你自己加点乐趣
To spice some things every 20 minutes yourself
他们骑在自己的头上 让这个大石头和自己协作
They ride themselves up to the brain can let the stone coordinators to take it from there
确保节奏一致
making sure few beats are hitting along the way
这不一定是坏事
This isn’t necessarily bad
有时候很棒
Sometimes it’s awesome
但这不完全是暴力做到的事
But it’s not all that violence can do
你该问的不应该是
The question you should be asking isn’t
在哪儿加入暴力场景
Where you should add violence
而是怎么运用它
But how can you use it
让我们回到高斯林最初的场景
Take that scene from the beginning with Gosling
它在如此短的时间内做到了这么多
It accomplishes so much in such a short period time
沟通事实中祷告是十分厌恶的
It is averse that cruciate from communicating facts.
在狭隘的场景里完成了个迅速反转
It’s a quick reversal of narrowed momentum
展现了高司令的性格是多么无助
It shows how helpless Gosling’s character
突然切换到其余场景带入更深的伤感
And accidential sliding of the rest place into the deeper sadness
这凸显了他艰苦的那种
That underlines he’s strenuous that kind of
对错误的救赎
redeem slip
沙恩布雷克是一位用暴力的大师
Shane Black is a master of using violence to
在惊悚功夫片中构建故事和角色
organize story and character in his action thrillers and mild words
展现了政策对价格的积极影响
when it shows that the polices attack this passitive price
如果你想表达
What if you want to show that detective
侦探疯狂的暴力和一些需要打马赛克的画面
craze violence and almost maskicity way
[呻吟声]
[groaning]
在布莱克的电影中,暴力经常是污秽、令人震惊和尴尬的
In Black’s film the violence is often messy and shocking and awkward
因为那是真正的暴力
because that is what real violence is like
是一些凌乱和破裂的东西
it is kind of chaos and rupture things.
特工狂花里的这些事件是一个完美的例子
the insiding incident in A Long Kiss Goodnight is a perfect example of this
Jenne Davod 用她的车撞到了一只鹿
Jenne David hits a deer with her car
这足够使她的车滑出路边
which would be enough to send the car craning off the road by herself
但幸运的是这只鹿穿透了车窗仍然活着并且划伤了乘客的脸
but lack has the deer come through the windshield still alive kicking the passenger in the face
这很尴尬,但是这能让我们警惕一些暴力的发生
this is awkward and transfixing in the way that leaves us on guarded against the violence of the moment
这样会使结果会变得更加突然
and the consequence will become more present for the whole thing
这种晚上发生的铅笔把戏,她达到了相同的效果
the Pencil Treak in the dark night, by the way she achieves a similar effect.
布莱克喜欢做的另一件事是让暴力在和平的气氛中发生
Another thing Black likes to do is visit violence on the otherwise pieceful
而布莱克喜欢做的又一件事是生产暴力
Another thing that Black likes to do is visit violence
也许我应该让布莱克用自己的话说
Maybe I should just let Black say in his own words
在这个我们觉得什么都是习惯又稳定的国家
In this country where we think everything is settled then and stabled then and surrn
一些可怕的暴力可以在和平之中发生,这个时候我们必须拿回自己的枪
something horribly violent can accrue upon peace now we have to go back to his guns sling who you all along.
这个西方中产阶级的世界并没有完结
that the world wasn’t over in the west wason gentrify
布莱克使用突然的暴力场景不仅是为了震撼观众,这也是给敌人的一种辩护
Black uses sudden violence not only to shock the audience but it is a way to justifying an enemy
他的英雄们和恶作剧
his heroes and Halloweens
重点是这些是以叙述为目的的暴力
the point is that this is violence with narrative purpose
这种目的也许简单得跟让观众集中精力于他们的脚趾或手指一样
that purpose maybe as simple as keeping the audience on their toes or fingers
我可以…切断你的手指吗?
Can I just cut…cut off your finger?
随便
yeah
也许这是解决一个简单问题的方法
It’s maybe a way to solve a simple problem
或者它也许回顾了这个角色真正的真实模样
or it might review what the characters really like
或者他想要成为什么样的人
or who he would like to be
[嘟哝声]
[inaudible]
我们的身边充斥着暴力,但是我们和暴力又是分开的
we all live around violence but by enlarge, we separate from it
一部好的战争片或者恐怖片让我们足以进入到那些暴力
a good new war or a thriller let us travel to the other side deep our feet into
如果我们运气不好经历了暴力行为
If we have the bad fortune to experience it for Stane we know that
我们知道暴力是不会有选择性的
violence can be indiscriminate
同时它可能发生在每一个人的生活中
and deeply personal at the same time
恰当的在电影中加入暴力场景,作为一种情境元素
Violence done right in this movie violence as a plot element
或者为了展示角色的尴尬而加入的暴力元素
or in exhibition of character awkward violence
暴力元素备受尊重吗?
Is violence respected?
当然了,这在那些怪诞的侦探故事里可以反映出来
Of course at the end of the day bizarre just movies poppi the detective stories drumlin reflects
但是我不想生活在一个没有Poppy John写的像致命武器或者小贼,美女,妙探一样的侦探电影的星球
But I wouldn’t wanna live in a universe that didn’t have Poppy John write detective movies like Lethal Weapon or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
我觉得Shane Black是一个将暴力场景生动的融入他的作品的动作恐怖电影作家
I think Shane Black is one of the film action thriller writer who incorporates violence in his scrips creatively.
我也很高兴他始终这样工作
And I’m glad he is still getting work
当然为了让他一直工作,我们也要一直去观看他的电影和其他作品
For that keep happening of course, we have to keep going to see his movies and other slagens.
除非你觉得其他人的电影也同样好看
Unless that is you’re ok with the alternative.
愤怒的小鸟
Angry birds
敬那些鸟~
To the birds.
同敬~
Hallion
[音乐声]
[music]
我是一个新的油管UP主,每周三更新哦,如果你点击右边的链接
There is a new nerdwriter radio every Wednesday.So if you go right to that box right there and click that
订阅我就可以看到所有的视频哦,谢谢么么哒
you’ll subscribe it and get all the videos and that what helps me out of the most in the channel.
有一个方法可以直接看到视频,不用在网站目录里找
I got a thing It squares base to helping bounce the radio,founding the channel with out asking to interfering in the content.
这真的很酷
which is really really cool
如果你直接进入squarespace.com这个网站,就可以不用输入视频地址了
Let me slick into the website.You don’t have to know coding to make if you go to a squarespace.com
如果你用“呆子作家”报名成为会员,你会得到一个免费的域名
and sign up for one year you will get a free domain named if you use the offer code nerdwriter
你会得到第一次消费10%的折扣
you will get ten percent of your first purchase from all you website hands up there.
谢谢大家咯,下周三见~
Thanks so much I’ll see you guys next Wednesday.

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