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《金刚狼3》:超级英雄类电影正在老去

Logan: Superhero Movies Get Old

类型电影都会问观众一个问题:“你还愿意相信这个吗?”
Genre films essentially ask the audience, “Do you still want to believe this?”
观众普遍给出的肯定回答: “是的”
Popularity is the audience answering, “Yes.”
而当观众说:“我们相信的东西太幼稚了
Change in genre occurs when the audience says,
我们要看更复杂的” 这样的时候
“That’s too infantile a form of what we believe.
(流行的)电影类型就要变了
Show us something more complicated.”
所有受欢迎的电影类型都有自己的寿命
All big movies genres have life cycles. 
它们出现 火起来 然后被重温 再然后如果足够必要
They are born, they become popular, they exhaust themselves, and then if they are important enough,
它就会转型 我认为由休·杰克曼扮演了17年的金刚狼
they transform. Hugh Jackman’s 17-year-tenure as Wolverine,
标志着超级英雄类电影的兴起和衰亡
I think, bookends two important milestones in the superhero film shop.
实际上 2000年布莱恩·辛格导演的电影X战警 就是此后
2000 X-man directored by Bryan Singer, was effectively the star of the superhero craze
统治好莱坞近20年的超级英雄热的开始
that’s come to dominate Hollywood for nearly two decades. 
而现如今 2017年詹姆斯·曼高德导演的金刚狼3则代表了
And now 2017’s Logan directored by James Mangold represents a response
对于热度的消退 大众的厌倦的一个回应
to the public’s exhaustion with that dominance.
如果你想要理解电影类型的变化 就一定要研究作家John G. Cawelti
If you wanna understand how genres change, the writter to look at is definitely John G. Cawelti, 
他那篇关于整体转型的著名论文
whose famous essay on generic transformation is, I think it’s a good rubric for what’s happening in Logan. 
Cawelti感兴趣的是 人们看过太多超级英雄的套路
Cawelti is basically interested in what occurs when genre conventions become so well known
想要看到不一样的东西的时候 会发生什么
that the audience demands something new.
电影类型以什么形式变化 Cawelti列出了
What forms does that change take? Cawelti identifies
4种形式: 滑稽 怀旧 去除神话色彩 以及深化主题
four: burlesque, nostalgia, demythologization, and reaffirmation
事实上 滑稽是对一种传统类型的荒诞的夸大或拙劣的模仿
Burlesque is essentially a ridiculous exaggeration or parody of genre coventions.
为了完成Leo Brody在视频开头说的话 这种流派转向自我嘲弄:
To finish Leo Brody’s quote from the start of this video, genres turn to self-parody to say,
“至少我们取笑了这种幼稚 说明我们进步了”
“Well, at least if we make fun of it for being infantile, it will show how far we’ve come.”
现在Brook无疑是这个的大师了 而且不止是西部片
Now Brooks is of course a master of this kind of thing, and not just for westerns.
滑稽片段也会出现在严肃电影里 当一个比喻突然变得好笑时
Moments of burlesque can be found in serious movies too, when a trope is made to suddenly look ridiculous,
就悄然把幻想和现实分开了
undercutting the fantasy with reality.
超级英雄类电影《死侍》就为罗根安排了这种桥段
And the superhero gentre Dead Pool film that help pave the way for Logan,
它是一部彻头彻尾的滑稽戏了
is a burlesque through and through.
-“超级英雄着陆 她要完成一次超级英雄着陆”-“等着看吧!”
-Superhero landing, she’s getting a new superhero landing.-Wait for it!
[音乐 爆炸声]
[Music playing][Bang]
“喔 超级英雄着陆了
“Wow, superhero landing,
耶 这真的是无法不崇拜呢 明白这其中有些不切实际 但我还是要这么做”
yeah that’s really hard on your knees, tell the impractical, I’ll do it.”
怀旧电影 那些是好的 比唤起浪漫的过去做得更多
Nostalgic films, the ones that are good anyway, do more than evoke a romanticized past.
他们进行更新 尝试对的故事情节和现代的基础结合
They update, try the true storylines with contemporary elements.
他们让观众意识到现在与过去的关系
They make the audience aware of the relationship between past and present.
Cawelti瞄准了 True Grit 但是 Chain Blacks 和 Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 也都符合资金的要求
Cawelti sights True Grit but Chain Blacks, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang fit the bill as well.
在那些去除浪漫色彩的种类里 一个没有感情的侦探故事
A hard-boiled detective story in which many of the tropes are deromanticized,
但是故事最终还是陷入了自我发现和英雄主义的老套中
but the story ultimately follows the same beats of discovery and heroism.
“干的好”
“Well done.”
去除神话色彩的电影是其中最复杂的一种
Demythologized films are the most complex of the bunch,
它们把家喻户晓的神话故事和传统惯例屈从于现实 这些现实使它们不恰当或者有更坏的影响
they subject popular myths and conventions to a reality that undercuts and exposes them as inadequate or even harmful.
罗曼·波兰斯基的《唐人街》
Cawelti’s archetypal example of this is Roman Polanski’s Chinatown.
在那冷血侦探的电影之后 还有很多同类型经典电影 比如威廉·福克纳的《夜长梦多》
The film that follows the hard-boilded detective genre of classic films like the William Faulkner The Big Sleep
直到事情发展到最黑暗和扭曲的地步 已经败坏了道德
until events become so dark and twisted and devoid of moral content
正义也没有得到伸张 侦探也饱受摧残
that justice is never served and the detective is left severely traumatized.
另一部类似的电影是科恩兄弟的《老无所依》
Another movie like this would be the Coen Brother’s No Country for an Old Man in which
这部新西部电影中汤米·李·琼斯饰演的警察
the lawman of the new West, Tommy Lee Jones
不仅没有抓到坏人 也没能理解他
not only fails to capture the villain but fails to understand him.
我不想把我的筹码押在一个恶棍身上 然后出去碰到一些我完全不理解的事情
“I don’t wanna push my chips for a villain and go out and meet something I don’t understand.”
最后一种电影类型的变化就是神话的再确认
The final transformation is the reaffirmation of myth,
是一种颠覆类型电影的电影 就像去除神话色彩的电影一样
the kind of film that subverts genre like the demythologized film.
但是电影结尾的事实会重申虚构的事 不是重申现实
But in the end the truth is to reaffirm the myth, not something that’s real
而是我们需要坚信的一些东西
but something that we need to believe.
我在想你是否能接受这种类型的超级英雄电影
I wonder if you can take a superhero film that might fall into that category.
那么《金刚狼3》是什么样的电影呢? 这代表了一些十分流行的电影类型的转变
So what is Logan? Clearly it represents some shift in this extraordinary popular genre.
如果说《死侍》说明了他们稍微意识到
If Dead Pool signals a soft awareness
超级英雄电影的故事正稍微丧失了它的影响力 那么我认为《死侍》
that the myth of the superhero movie is losing a bit of its power then I think Logan
是从一个审视的出发点 在这混乱之间做了对比 从而对困境的解决进行探寻 是否有其他有意思的电影发展方向
is an attempt to interrogate the contrasts towards that mess in order to see if there are any interesting directions
导演詹姆斯·曼高德是一个电影爱好者 《金刚狼3》很有意思的一点是
left forward to go. Director James Mangold is a movie buff. Something that’s really interesting about Logan
詹姆斯·曼高德怎样用一个类型来理解另一个 他通过《原野奇侠》的一个场景来揭示《金刚狼3》的主题
is how he uses one genre to understand another. Mangold states Logan’s key theme,
一直以来 《原野奇侠》是最受欢迎和饱受赞誉的西部片之一
the scene from Shane, one of the most popular and acclaimed westerns of all time.
“人必须忠于自己 乔伊
“A man has to be what he is, Joey.
不能违背自己的本性
Can’t break the mould.
我尝试过 但是没有成功 ”
I tried it, and it didn’t work for me.”
“我们需要你 肖恩”
“We want you, Shane.”
“乔伊 带着杀戮活下去很艰难
“Joey, there is no living with…with the killing.
这条路没有退路”
There is no going back from one.”
西部片确实是符合超级英雄电影的完美类型
Westerns are really the perfect genre to measure the superhero movie.
超级英雄的传奇 很大程度上是虚构人物的化身 或枪手的化身
The myth of the superhero is in many ways a reincarnation of the myth, of the gunslinger,
他们都是法律管束范围之外的英雄 为了最大程度上保护社区的
both are heros who act outside the law to protect the community at large.
曼戈尔德把他的高标准品质体现在了一系列电影之中
Mangold makes this parallel explicit in the sequence midway through the movie when Logan,
同时罗根查尔斯和劳拉的组合被塑造成了和谢恩家一样和睦的家庭
Charles and Laura are taken in by a kindly family the same way that Shane’s taken in.
罗根和谢恩辛苦工作支撑家庭 并且保护家人不受贪婪的商业利益的影响
Both Logan and Shane help the family with work and protect them from greedy business interests.
即使谢恩对他枪手的身份有一些疲乏
Although Shane is somewhat haunted by his life as a gun slinger, his purpose,
同时也对他的目标 对生活周围的法律环境感到无力
and the code of laws he lives by,
他最后仍然有必要去保护这个社区
he’s still necessary to protect the community in the end.
在曼戈尔德的版本里 英雄的暴力是不应该被遏制的
In Mangold’s version, the violence that follows the hero can’t be contained.
但是罗根的和睦的家庭并没有被解救 反而被残忍地全盘摧毁
Far from the very being saved, Logan’s kindly family is mercilessly and utterly destroyed.
如果这一点有什么不清楚 除了克隆一个罗根以外再无解决办法
And if the point wasn’t clear is by none other than a clone of Longan himself.
这是罗根最脱离神话色彩的一次
This is the closest that Logan comes to demythologization.
整个电影可以说是一个对所有超级英雄电影中的暴力的沉思
The whole movie is a meditation on the violence that all superhero films imply.
通过获得电影评级中的“限制级”
By earning an R-rating,
曼戈尔德和杰克曼除了要表现一种使罗根过去的英雄色彩更加复杂化的残暴
Mangold and Jackman get to show a type of a visceral brutality that complicates the heroics
还有X-Man中其他角色的过去 以及所有的超级英雄
of Logan’s past as well as those of the X-Man and all superheros
谢恩也不例外 罗根阻挡了过去浪漫化的超级英雄电影的基调
like it does Shane, Logan holds up the romanticized past of previous superhero movies
也就是连环漫画书里面表现出来的那种
in the form of comic books.
你知不知道他们都是在说废话而已 可能四分之一的故事已经发生了但是绝对不是现在这样
“Do you know that they are all bullshits, right? Maybe a quarter of it happened but not like this.”
罗根试图暴露想象的不合理 试着去说明其实并没有人性道德准则
Logan is attempting to expose the inadequacy of this fantasy, is trying to show that no personal moral code
可以不用冒险和毁灭就行使力量
can wield power without risking devastation.
这已经很残忍地通过Xaviar的形象清晰体现了 他的老化的思维已经暗示了
This is made painfully clear in the character of Xaviar whose aging mind is implied,
同时也可能无意中扼杀了很多无辜的突变体
may have unintentionally killed a number of innocent mutants.
要不是罗根自己 过去其他电影中的英雄主义的功劳
But for Logan himself, the past exploits of heroism from the other movies
只会作为伤害和噩梦再度出现
reemerges as trauma and nightmares.
快结束时 他和劳拉在一起的感人场面 他甚至承认着计划了自杀
The touching scene with Laura near the end, he even admits to contemplate a suicide.
“事实上 我……
“Actually, I…
我似乎看到了我自己枪毙自己的样子 就像约翰说的那样”
I was seeing I shooting myself like John said”
在最后 罗根把最后的大反转变成了主题的重申
In the end, Logan makes the final turn into reaffirmation.
最后的一次英雄主义牺牲的堆砌 深化重申了这个传奇
One last stack of sacrificial heroics that reaffiarms the myth
即使在暴露出其中的不合理以后
even after exposing it as inadequate.
你知道的 它让我思考这是否就是超级英雄电影的局限性
You know it makes me wonder if this is the limit of superhero movies.
想要完全消解神话主义的电影是否真的会被制作还尚不明确
It’s unclear whether a film that sought to fully demythologize this myth could ever really get made,
或者如果这种类型足够成熟的时候 就可以掌控这样的事
or if the genre itself is even mature enough to handle such a thing.
事实上 我认为《金刚狼3》给我们留下了一些值得思考的问题:
In fact, I think Logan leaves us with these exact questions:
一部电影本身是一次探讨 基于对一种类型电影的怀旧
a movie itself is a conversation between nostalgia for the genre
以及在局限性条件下不断减少的挫折
and unincreasing frustration with these limits.
更加让我激动的不是别的 而是即将到来的
More than anything I am just excited for what’s to come because
因为就像Cawelti说的在这个过度时期
its transition periods like these as Cawelti might say
“也正是真正有趣的事情开始发生的时候”
“when the really interesting things begin to happen”.
《金刚狼3》超级英雄电影渐渐老去
LOGANSUPERHERO MOVIES GET OLD
[音乐声]
[Music playing]
嗨 大家好 非常感谢你们的观赏 如果你们想看更多的相关视频 可以订阅这个频道
Hey everybody, thank you so much for watching, subscribe to this channel for more videos.
这个节目由AUDIBLE提供 AUDIBLE有很多的电子有声读物
This episode was brought to by AUDIBLE, AUDIBLE has a huge selection of digital audible books
这是每当我被长时间困在洛杉矶交通拥堵中时 很喜欢听的
which I love to listen to when I am stuck in Los Angeles’ traffic for hours and hours and hours.
这样或许能让交通拥堵的时光变得充满意义
This might make that time worthwhile.
怀着对新系列的骄傲与荣耀 我想推荐 Neil Gaiman’s American Gods 也正是说的Gaiman他自己
In honor of the new series, I am gonna recommend Neil Gaiman’s American Gods as read by Gaiman himself:
同时有一些优秀的演员阵容参与
and a cast of great actors.
这是一本很不错的书 如果你去audible.com/nerdwriter 你可以有三十天的免费试读
It’s an extraordinary book, and if you go to audible.com/nerdwriter, you can a thirty day free trial
还有得到一个免费的音频 看起来你可以用在American Gods或者其他的书上面
and one free audio, it looks you can use than on American Gods or something else.
希望你们喜欢 我们下期见
Enjoy, thanks guys, I’ll see you next time.

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