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《复仇者联盟3:无限战争》是一部火爆长达十年复杂系列电影的续集
‘Avengers: Infinity War’ is a jam-packed sequel to ten years worth of complicated franchise films,
但光靠铁杆粉丝你是赚不到20亿美元的
but you don’t make 2 billion dollars on the die-hard fans alone.
很荣幸见到你
It’s an honor to meet you.
说正经的
Officially.
我见过你 当时你还在冰冻中
I sort of met you, I watched you while you were sleeping.
这部电影需要完成两个极其困难的目标
The movie had to accomplish two extremely difficult goals:
使观赏漫威电影宇宙的每一分钟
Reward the hardcore base that’s obsessively
都令人着迷
watched every single minute of the MCU,
以及制作一部让没看过
and make a sensible and satisfying movie for the
《美国队长》或《奇异博士》的人
casual audience who might not have seen ‘ The
理解和满意的电影
First Avenger’or ‘ Dr.
多玛姆
Strange.’ Dormammu!
老实说 奇迹般地
it’s a miracle Marvel
漫威和罗素兄弟圆满完成了任务
and the Russo Brothers managed to pull it off,
今天我想带你们探寻
and today, I want to explore how’Infinity
《无限战争》是如何圆满地完成这个几乎不可能的任务
War’ accomplished this almost impossible task.
我是德夫
I’m Dev, and this is
无限悖论:复联3如何完成两个任务
The Infinity Paradox: How Infinity War Serves Two Masters First,
首先 让我们从真爱粉的角度
let’s look at the film
一起观看这部电影吧
through the eyes of the True Believers.
我从没想过
I’m not even gon na get
这部基于漫画的电影会有彩蛋
into the comics-based easter eggs inserted throughout the film,
因为漫威电影宇宙剧透了很多下部的回归
because the MCU itself provides plenty of material for deep callbacks,
可以预期到它会取得成功
running gags, and foreshadowing to finally pay off. Oh,
哦 顺便恭喜你结婚
congratulations on the wedding, by the way.
我不是在说内容是
And I’m not just talking about the big stuff either,
就像是在《复仇者联盟:奥创纪元》中
like how Tony Stark’s nightmare scenario
托尼·斯塔克的噩梦
from ‘ Age of Ultron’finally comes to pass,
或者美国队长怎么样在
Or how Captain America is still on the run
《内战》之后存活下去
after the end of ‘ Civil War, ’
以及 在阿斯加德被毁后 索尔如何带领一众难民
and Thor is leading a caravan of refugees after the destruction of Asgard.
这看起来像是暗示续集的标准程序
It might seem like standard procedure for a sequel,
但我不知道你是否全都明白
but I don’t know if you all understood:
我刚刚提到的三个剧情进展
I just mentioned three developments that
属于完全不同的电影系列
happened in three completely different movie series,
《无限战争》会继续在没有帮助的情况下
and yet ‘ Infinity War’continues the same
不那么沉重地讲述其延伸的故事
sprawling story without resorting to clunky narration or a
也不再采用《星球大战》的风格
‘ Star Wars’style text crawl.
这不是漫威低估粉丝的方式
The MCU doesn’t underestimate its fans like that,
事实上 这会让他们疯狂地
in fact, it rewards them for taking part
在长达十年中一直支持这个角色
in this crazy, decade-long journey with the characters.
《无限战争》里面有很多
‘ Infinity War’is packed with nods
在几乎每一部MCU电影里都出现的顽固分子
for the die-hards who have been there for every MCU release.
我有一支军队
I have an army.
我们有浩克
We have a Hulk.
我们有浩克
We have a Hulk.
例如彼特·帕克无意间让他的复仇者伙伴感到他不像是那个岁数的孩子
From Peter Parker accidentally making his teammate’s feel like oldheads,
嗨伙计们!你们有看过一部老电影吗? 《帝国反击战》?
Hey guys! You ever see that really old movie?’Empire Strikes Back?’ Jesus,
天啊 托尼 这人几岁?
Tony, how old is this guy?
我不知道 我无法测定他
I dunno, I didn’t carbon date him,
他是个小屁孩!
he’s on the young side! Okay,
好的 你有没有看过一部叫《异形2》的老电影?
you ever see this really old movie’Aliens?’
还有火箭的偷窃本领 大概就依靠实验后的假肢和眼球
and Rocket’s knack for stealing knack-knacks, mainly prosthetic limbs and eyeballs,
那小子在那儿
That dude there.
我需要他的假腿
I need his prosthetic leg.
天 你知道我不需要他身上的其他东西 他已经没用了 好吧
Godknows I don’t need the rest of him, he’s useless. Okay,
这手臂多少钱?啊 我会得到那只手臂的
how much for the arm? Oh, I’ll get that arm…
这部电影很得人心
the movie relishes in shout-outs to the day ones
没有拖延任何别的角色的故事
without dragging down the narrative for everyone else.
我确定有些粉丝对于
I’m sure some fans were disappointed
娜塔莎和布鲁斯的爱情不在故事主线故事之中而感到失望
that Natasha and Bruce’s romance wasn’t front and center,
(一些粉丝)
(…some fans)
但这并不是一部
but this just wasn’t the right
去缓解所有紧张局势的合适电影
movie to resolve all that simmering tension,
还有 猎鹰已经说了所有需要说的
and besides, Falcon said all that needed to be said.
这真尴尬
This is awkward.
一部电影不能只在服务粉丝中成功
A movie can’t succeed on fanservice alone,
否则它将只能成为下一部《索罗》
because otherwise it would just be ‘Solo.’ Do…
做好你该做的事
Do your thing.
这部表现不佳的电影充满了
The underperforming film was filled with deep cuts
对星球大战宇宙的深度挖掘
of the Star Wars universe,
无论你是否喜欢
but regardless of whether you liked it or not,
它赚了大约十亿美元
it made about a billion dollars
比《星球大战8:最后的绝地武士》更少
less than ‘ The Last Jedi. ’
漫威电影宇宙的大革新
The MCU’s big innovation
就是找到了取悦铁杆粉丝的方法
was figuring out how to please die-hard fans,
而且将数十年的漫画情节
And condense decades of comic book plotting
浓缩到一次一群人见证
into a streamlined experience for the
无数生命逝去的经历中
Casual Crowd Next to the trillions of lives lost,
《无限战争》最令人震撼的时刻
the most shocking moment of ‘ Infinity War
就是在14部电影和现实中的7年后
’ was the reappearance of the Red Skull
红骷髅的重新出现
after 14 movies and seven real-life years.
但如果你错过了美国队长的第一部电影
But if you missed Cap’s first film,
这位宝石守护者的大揭面
the big reveal of the Stonekeeper probably wouldn
对你可能意义不大
’ t mean that much to you,
他只是个奇怪的披斗篷的骷髅
he’s just a creepy skeleton man in a cloak.
说实话 知道这就够了
And honestly? That’s enough.
如果这是80年代的电影
If this movie was made in the ‘80s,
他会成为吉姆汉森工作室
he’d be a random
随意制作出的一个电子生物
animatronic whipped up by the Jim Henson studio,
或是《最后的十字军》中的一个老骑士
or the old knight guy in ‘The Last Crusade,’
只是一个推动情节发展的酷角色
just a cool character that moves the plot along,
给我们的英雄们提供谈话对象
gives our heroes someone to talk to,
同时能让观众看点有趣的
and gives the audience something interesting to look at.
故事结构已经安排好了
The story is structured so you don ’
因而你其实完全不用了解他
t actually need to know anything about him.
如果寻找灵魂宝石的是美国队长或冬兵
If it was Cap or Bucky seeking the Soul Stone,
他们就必须强调整个
they’d have to address the whole ‘ working
与纳粹战斗和寻找九头蛇的过程
with Nazis and founding HYDRA’deal.
这其中有太多历史了
There’s too much history there.
但电影里
But in the movie,
只有卡魔拉和灭霸遇到了红骷髅
only Gamora and Thanos encounter the Red Skull,
两个或许曾未听说过二战的外星人
two aliens who have probably never even heard of World War II.
铁杆粉丝们知道谁是约翰·施密特
The hardcore fans know who Johann Schmidt is,
他只提供了足够的背景故事
and he provides just enough backstory
让观众知道 如果想要 仍可挖掘更多
so the audience understands there’s more there if they care to dig,
但这个宝石守护者靠自己站着
but the Stonekeeper stands on his own, Stands…
飘浮着
Floats…
靠自己飘浮着!
Floats on his own!
在一部像复联3一样长而紧凑的电影中
In a film as long and packed as this one,
除非必要 没有时间阐述背景故事
there’s no time for exposition unless it’s absolutely necessary.
当没有别的选择时
And when there’s no other choice,
《无限战争》有一个出色的内部解决方法
‘ Infinity War’has a brilliant, Built-in Solution.
为了容纳大量的表演
In order to accommodate the massive cast
并让演员有事可做
of characters and give them all something to do,
《无限战争》将角色分成了多个小组
‘Infinity War’ splits them up into smaller groups,
并让他们完成自己的复仇戏份
and lets them play out their own piece of the adventure. Eventually,
最终 队伍聚集成两派
the teams converge into two main factions,
银河护卫队和托尼的新复仇者
the Guardians of the Galaxy and Tony’s New Avengers,
秘密复仇者们为保护幻视而严守瓦坎达
and the Secret Avengers holding the line in Wakanda to protect Vision.
每队都有一位成员
And each one of those teams has a member who is just as lost
像一位新观众一样茫然
as a casual viewer might be.
从《奥创》后浩克就一直留在太空中
The Hulk has been in space since Age of Ultron,
所以他错过了托尼和斯蒂夫的内战
so he missed out on Tony and Steve’s little tussle,
也不认识蜘蛛侠和蚁人
and has no clue who Spider-Man and Ant-Man are,
就像错过那些电影的观众们
just like the viewers who might have passed on those movies. So,
所以 当托尼告诉浩克发生的事
when Tony catches him up on what
观众也能跟上剧情
went down, the audience gets up to speed too,
而不用额外的大量阐述
without a massive exposition dump.
同样地
Similarly,
护卫队成员们曾未到过地球 除了星爵
the Guardians, with the exception of Star-Lord, have never been to Earth.
他们不认识复仇者 “我是格鲁特!”
They don’t know the Avengers, I AM GROOT!
我是斯蒂夫·罗杰斯
I am Steve Rogers.
复仇者们当然也不知道
and the Avengers sure don’t know
《银河护卫队1》中的舞蹈
about the dance-off from ‘ Guardians 1, ’
直到德拉克斯告诉他们 和我们
until Drax tells them, and us.
什么跳舞?
What dance off?
呃 没什么
It’s not a– It’s nothing…
-像“自由自在”的舞?-对 就是那样
Like in’Footloose?’ Exactly like’Footloose.’
火箭与索尔敞开心扉的交流
One of the most exposition-heavy scenes comes
是电影的重头戏之一
from Rocket and Thor’s heart to heart.
你说你的姐姐和你的爸爸
You said your sister and your dad…
都死了
Both dead.
但你至少还有个妈妈?
Still got a mom, though?
被黑暗精灵杀死了
Killed by the dark elf.’”
由于这一系列的讲述
Because the movie consut
即便没有看过《雷神•黑暗世界》也能得到许多信息
Here it ’ s a bunch of info in case you didn ’ t see ‘ The Dark World
这不怪你
Which I don’t blame you for…
这家伙刚刚失去了一切
This guy has just lost everything.
那铸就了他的逆境品质
That imbues him with the underdog quality,
这成为了电影的核心
that becomes the heart of the movie,
你开始找到支柱
and you start to root for,
你相信这种能量会把你带到顶点
and you believe in that energy that carries you to the climax.
这种角色配对很有趣 因为他们有类似的经历和性格
That pairing was very interesting on that level because they share that DNA.
当他们准备即将到来的灭霸之战时
The two characters compare past traumas as they prepare
这两个角色比较了他们的创伤
for the battle with Thanos ahead.
这有点儿令人不快
It’s a little on the nose,
但它是两个角色建立纽带的重要时刻
but it’s an amazing bonding moment between the two characters,
伴随着轻快的 自我中心的语调
and with the lighthearted, self-aware tone,
粉丝们不会感到被轻视
fans don’t feel like they’re being talked down to,
新观众们也不会因为
and new audiences don’t feel bad
错过复联最坏的切入点而悲伤
for missing the worst-reviewed entry in all the MCU. So,
去世的兄弟 嗯?是的 这确实令人恼火
dead brother, huh? Yeah, it can be annoying. Well,
好吧 他早已假死过了
he’s been dead before.
电影没有许多空间塑造角色
The movie doesn’t have a lot of room for characterization,
但索尔可能是得到最多爱的人
but Thor arguably gets the most love here.
他有一条成长曲线 他成长了
He has an arc, he grows,
他的旅程是传统故事线里前无古人的电影 说实话
and his journey keeps the first-of-its-kind film grounded with a more traditional plot thread. Honestly,
此刻索尔已经赢得我的“无限之战”
in this moment Thor won’Infinity War’ for me,
所有世界毁灭的悲剧都不能被强调
all the tragic stuff in’Ragnarok’ couldn’t be addressed
因为漫威走的是喜剧风格
because of the comedic tone,
包括所有发生在弟弟洛基身上的事
and all the stuff that happened with Loki,
索尔的眼睛和他的父亲
his eye, his dad…
但这部电影中所有的悲伤最终在此刻涌出
But in this movie it finally came out in this moment just
只在他们两人心与心的谈话中 而我感到
in their little heart to heart and I’m like
“哦天哪!索尔有人类的感情!”
oh crap! Thor is a human!
这就像他最终得到了喘息
It’s like he finally gets a moment to breathe and realize all
放下所有发生在他身上的悲剧
that bad stuff that’s happened to him.
当然 与灭霸相比 他一点也不重要
Of course, he’s nowhere near as important as Thanos.
在众多角色之中
Of the dozens of characters,
这位“疯狂的泰坦”戏份最多
The Mad Titan has the most screentime,
这几乎是他的个人电影
It’s clearly his movie.
当你注意到电影以“灭霸会回归”结束
Notice how it ends with Thanos will return,
而不是“复仇者们会回归”
not The Avengers will return?
当我看到这里 我感觉很糟
That messed when up when I saw that, I was like dang.
但即使你不待在
But even if you didn’t stick
那些介绍灭霸的老粉附近
around for the earlier stingers introducing Thanos,
复联3也很好地告诉了你
‘ Infinity War’does an excellent job telling
灭霸是谁 他想做什么
you who he is, what he wants,
以及他计划如何做到
and how he plans to do it.
数十亿人死了!
Trillions dead!
灭霸是电影的焦点
Thanos is a focal point,
由于他的智慧和鲜明的性格
and thanks to clever tricks and strong characters,
你不需要看完之前的所有电影
you don’t need to have seen all of the previous movies
就能看懂《无限战争》
for ‘ Infinity War’to make sense,
这就是复联3成功转型吸引观众的重要部分
which is a huge part of its Crossover Appeal For all its innovation,
《无限战争》真是一部流畅的
‘ Infinity War’is really just a streamlined version
经典漫画转型的新版电影
of the classic comic book crossover.
从早期的《秘密战争》到大量的
From the early days of ‘ Secret Wars’to massive events
类似《狂攻》和《内战》的事件
like ‘ Onslaught’and ‘ Civil War, ’
漫画在普及“大事件”上并不出名
comics are infamous for sprawling ‘event’ storylines,
无法让你串联各个极其复杂的场景
that make you deal with convoluted continuity,
和无数你必须阅读
and tons of essential tie-ins you need to
来防止自己看不懂的小贴士
read just so you don’t get lost.
复联3抛掉了所有的包袱
‘Infinity War’ strips away all that baggage,
虽然为此它必须
even if it has to cheat to do it.
在《银河护卫队2》的结尾迷惑观众
At the end of ‘Guardians 2,’
枪被交到克拉克林手上
the gang had joined up with Kraglin and were blasting off
在劫掠者号船的遗骸中散落到太空
in the remains of the Ravager ship.
但当我们在《无限战争》见到它们时
But when we meet them in ‘ Infinity War, ’
它们回到了旧的状态
they’re back to the old status quo, with
带着新的交通工具和勇度的第一个同伴M.I.A
a new ride and Yondu’s first mate M.I.A. Granted,
理所当然地 第二号船出现在四年前
‘Vol. 2’ took place four years prior,
但《无限战争》从全新的时间开始
but ‘ Infinity War’begins at max a few hours
在“劫掠者”号船的老粉之后
after the ‘ Ragnarok’stinger,
所以女武神和石头人到底在哪?
so where the hell are Valkyrie and Korg?
我想加入这支队伍 它有名字吗?
I wanna be on the team. Does it have a name? Yeah,
哦 它叫 报仇者联盟
it’s called… The Revengers.
乔·罗素解释说
Joe Russo yadda yaddaed it by saying they escaped
他们恰好在灭霸袭击前逃跑了
in a pod just before Thanos attacked,
但实际上是因为他们不能
but really, it’s because they couldn ’
被安排进入一部多人电影
t fit into a crowded movie without a lengthy explanation
却不介绍他们是谁 如何认识索尔
of who they are and how they know Thor. Ideally,
想象中 我们必须看到那个画面
we would have gotten to see that moment,
嘿 也许他们会出现在复联4里
and hey, maybe they’ll show up
但《无限战争》
in Part 2, but ‘ Infinity War ’
要求他的很多观众
asked a lot of its audience,
不要陷入寻找细节
and instead of getting bogged down
而使漫画难以看懂的困境
in the dirty details that makes comics themselves tough to approach,
电影为我们描述了世界毁灭中最精彩的部分
the movie gives us the best parts of a crossover event
而不使人头痛
without all the headache: Magic!
魔法! 更多的魔法!
More magic!
一击的魔法!
Magic with a kick!
魔法
Magic with a–
这种有趣的交流 广泛的视野和震惊宇宙的影响
The amusing interactions, the massive scope, and the universe-shattering consequences. Now,
在烂番茄上现在仍有一些
there are still a
“烂”的负面评价
few rotten reviews on the ol’Tomatometer,
其中很多批评
a lot of which come
都来自不那么熟悉漫威电影宇宙的人
from critics who weren’t that familiar with the MCU,
而是根据票房和近乎大家所有人美好的期待而评判
but judging from the box office and near-universal goodwill,
漫威雄心勃勃的尝试取得了巨大的成功
Marvel’s ambitious experiment was a smashing success,
不管你是铁杆粉丝
and whether you’re a die-hard True
还是萌新粉丝
Believer or a new fan fresh to the franchise,
复联3几乎能让所有人开心
‘Infinity War’ made damn near everyone happy.
但是这次……呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵
But this……hahahahahaha
真的挺让我感到开心的
does put simle on my face
嘿 朋友们!太感谢你们能观看这个剪辑
Hey gays!Thank you so much watch this vidio.
现在如果说所有的影片都结束了
Now if all the vidio is finally out
那么你们是怎么想的呢
What you gays think of it?
是否你们认为他们留下了太多的坑
Do you think they dumped it down too much for casuals?
或者是你希望看到他们更多的把漫画里的主要情节安插到电影中
or would you have liked to see more hardcore stuff from the comics insert it into the film?
再或者是让他们更完美的融合在一起
or was it perfectly balanced?
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从情节吸引力和新粉圈粉力两方面解读复联3的成功

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