When you look at a red carpet happening,
it just looks like a zoo, like a celebrity zoo.
It seems to me that it’s a very stressful experience to be on the red carpet.
Stars themselves did what they do best:
摆姿势 摆姿势 还是摆姿势
Pose, pose, and pose again.
The real fun stuff is when actual spontaneity occurs
which is pretty rare.
My favorite red-carpet moments are always when
someone really unexpected winds up in the Oscars.
Like in 2012, there was a nun on the red carpet.
Favorite era for me and this might have to do with my age,
你知道啦 就是80年代末90年代初 那会儿的红毯时尚
you know, sort of late 80s early 90s, red carpet fashion.
My red carpet history books, of which I have many, tell me that
Aeschylus was the first to mention a red carpet
and a crimson carpet in his play Agamemnon.
Just gone downhill from there pretty much, you know.
How do you be quite a maestro rolling out a red carpet?
No, you really can’t.
If you do watch the old Oscars from the 60s, 70s,
it was really quick, it was really simple.
There was announcer telling you who was walking into the theater and stage.
As for Ann Margaret, a night of beautiful women, she was one of the most striking.
The red carpet kind of became a beast onto itself in the 90s
because of Joan Rivers.
嗨 各位美女 我们到奥斯卡颁奖礼现场啦 不过我还想……
Hello girls, we are in the Academy Awards but then I wanna…
Her and her daughter Melissa Rivers
did their first red carpet special in 1995.
她给整场颁奖礼带来一种刻薄 担心 以及互相较劲
And Joan Rivers introduced this element of meanness and fear and competition
to the whole thing.
It is time for our best and worst, OK.
It did create an element of, you know,
what is Joan River’s gonna think, what is she gonna say.
This dress is fashion birth control, that’s what this dress is.
But we should say that Joan and Melissa created the question
“Who were you wearing?”
which became the ultimate red carpet question.
-Who are you wearing? -This is Ashley Isham.
Kind of opened up this whole feeling, gave people license
to criticize women’s fashion choices and bodies.
The whole thing is built up to make it look as if
it’s a discreet serene moment in time,
在这里 你知道啦 各位新星不是在拍照就是在受访
where, you know, when you see the starlet either like posing or talking to a reporter.
I like it, it’s a really good show tonight.
But in fact it is actual men around her.
Can we do a Mani Cam for all these diamonds you’re wearing on your fingers actually?
-The Mani cam.-The Mani cam.
where you slip your paw inside a little box.
It has been, in recent years, pushback against that
by some prominent actresses.
Elisabeth Moss who, I think, in 2014 gave the finger to the Mani Cam.
You said to do it.
Did you guys get a shot of that?
That’s where I was going.
If it wasn’t so public maybe we could…
So in 2014 Cate Blanchett called out the Glam Cam.
-Who I’m wearing? -Yes.
Did…Do…I just wanna…Do you…Do you do that to the guys?
It’s a thing that’s just…it just happens.
What do you think is gonna happen down there that is so fascinating I’m gonna…
What’s exciting is to see some of the stars
kind of take agency and take over and say,
“We are not gonna be zoo animals any more, we’re gonna…”
-Yeah.-Say things we are going to steer the conversation the way we want to.
I was part of a very powerful story and…
Stars wanna be treated like human beings, which they are of course,
他们也是演员 有自己的才能 专注于自己的才能
and they are actors and they have a craft and they are interested in their craft.
But in other ways it benefits them in some ways to be brands.
Those things come up against one another.
One thing that, I think, has changed in red carpet coverage is that
你知道啦 现在有推特 有社交媒体 也就有了即时评论
there’s now Twitter and, you know, social media, there’s instant commentary,
and people who get called out including commentators or dumb questions.
There was the year when someone told Rachida Jones she got tanned.
You look like you’ve just come off like an island or something.
You are very tan, very tropical.
She’s kind of laughed it off and said,
我是说 你知道啦 我是少数民族嘛
I mean, you know, I’m ethnic.
Me too. So…
-Or, you know, person had no idea she is, you know, the daughter of Quincy Jones.-Yeah.
It was only like a mere like maybe 10 years ago, I believe,
when Isaac Mizrahi felt Scarlet Johansson up.
我只想摸摸嘛 哦 哦 太有效啦
I just wanna feel it. Oh, oh, that’s totally working.
What’s going on?
Things have gotten more tense and more buttoned up,
but maybe also more careful in, like, positive ways.
This was the first big award show after the Me Too movement exploded
and became Time’s Up.
They were gonna all wear black.
They were gonna wear pins that says Time’s Up
意思是“性侵 性骚扰 性虐待该结束啦”
as in Time’s Up Upon Sexual Assault and Sexual Harassment, Abuse.
I’m never gonna be in a room
and be treated in the way that people have been treated ever again,
而不挺身而出 严词拒绝 绝不
and not stand up and not say I don’t agree with that.
The whole reason why that was able to take place, like anything,
that’s an abuse of power, is that, is silence.
My favorite moment of that night was
when Debra Messing was being interviewed by E!
And it came out that one of their cohost had quit
because she wasn’t getting paid as much as her male cohost
and Debra Messing just says right to the E! correspondent,
You know, I was so shocked to hear that
that E! doesn’t believe in paying their… their female cohost
我真是被惊到了 我想说 我想念凯特·桑德勒
the same as their male cohost. I mean, I miss Catt Sadler…
I’ve never seen anything like that happen on a red carpet,
that kind of confrontation and that kind of politicization of the whole enterprise.
That spirit of kind of insurrection
did carry over from the red carpet into the golden global show,
I mean, that’s…you have that incredible Oprah speech…
May they become the leaders who take us to the time
when nobody ever has to say “Me too” again.
You have Natalie Portman saying,
“And here are the all-men nominees…” when presenting best director…
And last year’s Oscars in her acceptance speech,
Frances McDormand finished her speech up by saying,
“I have two words to leave with you tonight, ladies and gentlemen, Inclusion Rider.”
I can’t say I have very high hopes
for the red carpet becoming politicized permanently.
My hope is that celebrities who have the personality for it
find ways to be creative,
and not feel like they have to jump through these hoops that are mandatory.
男性 酷儿 和非常规性别的明星在时尚方面
I think it would be great for men and queer and nonbinary stars
as they get more and more visibility to push the envelope
in terms of fashion that isn’t just cisgender female underneath.
If there’s more representation of all kinds in Hollywood,
各种种族 生理性别 心理性别……
racial, sexual, gender…
People might find a…find new ways to push the envelope with fashion.
And that can actually be important and speak to people back home
who are, you know, seeing themselves represented on the red carpet,
and seeing the…seeing possibilities.