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给日语学习者的建议

Advice for Japanese Learners

首先,感谢你们订阅我们的频道,我们开始录视频
First of all thank you for everyone who has subscribed to us. We started our channel
不过几个月,我们就有800个关注者,简直太神奇了
a few months ago and we have 800 subscribers, which is amazing!
非常感谢你!
Thank you so much.
很遗憾,我老婆因为工作原因现在回美国了,但是我们会尽量做出
Unfortunately my wife is back in America for her job right now but we’ll try to make more
更多更好的视频
good videos.
我看到很多评论问我,有没有什么学日语的建议
So I got many comments asking me to give some advice on learning Japanese.
我不是专门研究日语的日本人,但是我可以告诉你们
I’m not a professional, qualified Japanese or anything like that, but I think I can tell you
我的外国朋友们怎样在日本学日语的
how my friends from abroad who are in Japan learn Japanese.
我是个大学学生,我有很多交换生同学,所以我问了
I’m a university student and I have lot of exchange students on campus, so I asked
他们学习日语最好的方法
them about the best way to learn Japanese.
所有我询问的学生,他们的日语都非常好,水平很高
All students I asked can speak Japanese well and their Japanese level is pretty high.
所以,学习日文最好的方法是:
So, the best way to learn Japanese:
估计你也知道他们第一个建议是什么
as you would know what they said first was
尽量和日本人学日语
‘Do your best to learn Japanese from Japanese people.’
很显然,这就是为什么他们在我的学校学习,我知道这做起来并不简单
Obviously that’s why they’re studying at my university. I know it’s not easy to do.
这取决于你在哪儿,但是找一个日本的日语老师很难
It depends on where you live, but it’s usually hard to find a Japanese Japanese teacher.
但是你要是对寄居日本家庭或在日本留学感兴趣的话,当然应该!
But if you’re interested in homestaying or studying abroad in Japan, you should!
你一定会学到很多东西
You can definitely learn lots of things.
个人而言,我从来没有出国读过书,但是我见过很多交换生
Personally, I’ve never studied abroad but I’ve seen many exchange students
很喜欢跟日本老师和日本同学学日语
enjoy learning Japanese with Japanese teachers and students.
我觉得你会发现它是值得的
I think you’ll find it worth it.
但你们可能找不到日本人,我推荐一个网站
But for those of you who are kind of unable to find Japanese people, I recommend a website
叫做Lang-8,可能很多人听过
called Lang-8. Many of you have probably heard of it.
据我所知这是对日语学习者来讲最好的网站之一
As far as I know it’s one of the best websites for Japanese learners.
你可以用这个网站补充你的日语知识
You should definitely use this website to supplement your Japanese.
首先你用你所学的语言写日记
First you write journal entries in the language that you’re learning,
以你所学的语言为母语的其他用户会帮你
and other users who are native speakers of the language that you’re learning help you by
纠正你的错误
correcting your entries.
当然你也能帮那些在学习你母语的人
And of course you can help out people who are learning your mother tongue as well.
对于那些学日语的人来讲,好消息是有很多日本用户
The good thing for those who are learning Japanese is that there are many Japanese users
在这个网站,你很容易知道他们并且和他们交朋友
on this website and you can easily get to know them and you can make friends.
一些人很乐意与你通过网络电话交流,你们彼此帮助纠正发音
And some are willing to talk to you on Skype so you can help each other with pronunciation
和口语
and speaking.
对于我来说学习最难的部分是如何激励自己学习和坚持下去
For me the most difficult part of studying is how to motivate myself to study and stick to it.
Lang-8是一个激励你的好工具,还有很多其他好网站
And Lang-8 can be a great tool to motivate you. There are many other good websites out there so
如果你想了解更多我把链接放在我的描述栏里
if you want to know about it more I put the link in my description.
我一直在使用Lang-8而且从中学到了很多
I’ve been using lang-8 for a little while and I’ve learned a lot from it.
我能感觉到我的写作变好了
I can tell my writing has gotten better.
至于口语,如果你想说得很好,我是这么做的:
And about speaking, if you want to be able to speak well, here’s how I did it:
不要学习
Don’t study!
请不要学习
Please don’t study.
我没有学习如何讲话
I didn’t study how to speak.
我学会了怎样说
I learned how to speak.
英语,日语,中文,法语,韩语…
English, Japanese, Chinese, French, Korean…
无论哪种语言,他们都是工具,你不必学习工具
whichever language, they are all tools. And you do not study tools.
你得使用工具
You use tools.
为了用好它,你必须练习
And in order to use it well, you’ve gotta practice.
有一个日本谚语解释了它:習うより慣れよ
There’s a Japanese proverb that explains this: 習うより慣れよ
意思是熟能生巧
which means practice makes perfect.
就像运动
So it’s like sports.
仅仅因为你有好的工具和知道怎么玩
Just because you have good tools and you know how to play, it doesn’t
并不意味着你能成为一个好的运动员,你需要练习
mean you can be a good player. You need to practice.
因此如果你懂语法,知道规则,有广泛的词汇,好了
So if you know the grammar, if you know the rules, if you have a wide vocabulary, there you go,
你能成为一个出色的作者,出色的读者,但不是一个擅长口语的人
you can be a good writer, you can be a good reader, but not a good speaker.
你需要练习
You need to practice.
这很常见,在托业考试中成绩良好的日本人
It’s not uncommon for many Japanese people who have a good score on
甚至一点也不能交流
TOEIC test to not even be able to converse at all.
托业代表国际交流英语考试
TOEIC stands for Test Of English for International Communication.
对英语学习者尤其是韩国和日本的英语学习者,这是最有名的考试之一
It’s one of the most famous tests for English learners especially in Korean and Japan.
它评估了商务英语方面的技能
It evaluates skills in business English.
它是一个测量非英语母语者的能力的评估标准
It is a standard assessment tool that measures non-English speakers’ abilities
评估用英语交流专业和国际形式的能力
to communicate in English in professional and international situations.
一次我在面试时,坐在我隔壁的面试者
One time when I was taking a job interview, the interviewee sitting next to me was
谈论她为了得到托业考试的高分有多努力
talking about how hard she studied to get a high score on TOEIC test.
她很努力地去说
She spoke with great intensity.
但一旦面试官要求她用英文介绍自己,她开始恐慌
But once the interviewer asked her to introduce herself in English, she panicked
我所能从她的话里理解到的只有
and all I could understand from what she said was,
‘我是人类’
‘I am human.’
回头想想她想说她主修的是人类学
Looking back I think she wanted to say her major was anthropology.
可能吧
Probably.
为了拿到那么高的分数,她必须学习得很努力
In order to get such a high score, she must have studied really hard.
她说她为了托业考试每天学习6小时
She said she studied for the TOEIC test for 6 hours everyday.
我尊敬那些人能做我不能做的事,我真的尊敬
And I look up to those people who can do something I can’t do. I really do.
但坐在椅子上读教科书不能让你成为一个擅长口语的人
But sitting in a chair and reading a textbook isn’t going to make you a good speaker
无论你学习多长时间
no matter how long you study.
你必须练习
You’ve got to practice.
我的做法其实很简单
About how I did it, it’s actually very simple.
我在我pad的备忘录里写下一些有用的句子,然后大声朗读直到我的舌头
I wrote useful sentences on my memo pad and said it out loud until my tongue
记住它以至于不用考虑语法就能说出来
memorized it so that it would just come out without thinking about the grammar
在下次我想说的时候
next time I wanted to say it.
嗯,这与你的记忆力有多好无关
uh… But it’s not about how good your memory is,
这与你的舌头有关,你习惯说它
it’s about how much your tongue, you yourself get used to saying it.
学外语的方法有上千种
There are thousands of methods to learn foreign languages but you’ve got to
但你必须说和练习成为一个说话者,无论你学哪种语言
speak and practice to be a speaker whichever language you learn.
只要你坚持练习,不需要很久
It doesn’t take that long as long as you keep practicing.
关于口语和发音:我推荐一种方法
About speaking and pronunciation: one thing I recommend is that you
你尝试去找一个能纠正你的日语的人
try to find someone who can correct your Japanese.
我让我所有的朋友毫不犹豫地纠正我的英语
I asked all my friends to correct my English without hesitation.
当你犯错误时,你的朋友可能不会说,哦,你犯了个错误
When you make mistakes your friends probably don’t want to say, ‘oh you made a mistake.’
但除非你纠正你不会注意到的地方
But unless you’re corrected you’re not going to notice it.
也许你的语法很好但你的发音很奇怪
Maybe your grammar is fine but maybe your pronunciation is strange.
如果你开始,无论如何都会犯错误
If you are a beginning you’re going to make mistakes anyway
但尽力不要让自己犯相同的错误
but try not to let yourself keep making the same mistakes.
如果可以,尽力找到一个可以帮你的人
So if you can, try to find someone who can help you with it.
我认为这是最好的方式并且我就是这么做的
I believe that’s the best way to go and that’s how I did it.
我觉得我应该讲从日本动漫中学习,日本漫画或日本戏剧也行
I think I should talk about studying from anime, manga or Japanese dramas as well.
你可能被告知,当你学习时应该避开他们
You might be told that you should avoid them when you study:
不要看漫画,不要看动漫戏剧
‘Don’t read manga, don’t watch anime, no dramas!’
他们不能帮你!你怎么了?
‘They’re not going to help you! What’s wrong with you?’
这是对的…也不对。我已经看英文漫画好几年了
It’s true… but it’s not true. I’ve been reading manga in English for years
当我激励自己时漫画帮了我很多
and it helps me a lot when it comes to motivating myself.
我不讨厌学习但有时我一点也不喜欢学习
I don’t hate studying but from time to time I don’t feel like studying at all.
当我看漫画时,至少我把自己
When that happens I read manga so that at least I can put myself
放在一个我必须用英语做一些事情的地方
in a place where I have to do something in English.
我想我是从3、4岁开始看漫画的
When I started reading manga I think I was 3 or 4 years old.
有很多我不认识的单词
There was just too many words I didn’t know.
但我很享受,英文版也一样
But I could still enjoy it. And same as the English version.
当我开始看英文版漫画时,有太多我不认识的单词
When I started reading them in English there were too many words I didn’t know,
但我依然享受它
but I could still enjoy it.
我没有学习但我正在学习
I wasn’t studying, but I was learning.
我从不把它作为主要的学习工具
But I’ve never taken it as the main studying tool.
我不建议你使用他们如果你才刚开始学日语
And I don’t recommend you use them if you are just starting out learning Japanese
因为没有字幕你不知道他们在谈论什么
because you’ll have no idea what the hell they are talking about without subtitles.
即使他们是替代的,一些动漫,好吧,实际上很多动漫使用你在现实生活中
And even if they’re subbed, some anime, well actually many anime use strange words
没听过的奇怪的词语和事情
and things you never heard in real life.
但如果你的日语水平中等或你知道一些基础的东西
But If your Japanese level is intermediate or if you know the basics,
我觉得用戏剧,视频,电影熟悉日语是很好的
then I think it’s totally fine to use dramas, videos, movies to get used to Japanese.
你能学到一些有用的短语和单词,在现实生活中使用
You can take some useful phrases and words and use it in real life to improve
提高你的口语,像我一样
your speaking like I do.
如果你把他们作为学习材料,然后挑选一些
If you’re going to use them as studying materials, then pick the ones that
听起来不现实
don’t sound unrealistic.
如果你不能辨别,那还是看他们仅供娱乐比较好
If you can’t even tell, then it would be better if you just watch it for fun.
这是我的建议:
Here’s my advice:
不要把他们作为学日语的借口
Don’t use them as an excuse for studying Japanese.
我已经厌倦了学习英语
I’ve been there and done that for my English studying.
我知道他们好玩,有趣,令人兴奋…我个人很爱它
I know they’re fun, interesting exciting… I personally love it.
但我相信有如此多你能做的事除了看动漫或话剧之外
But I believe there’s so much stuff you can do other than just watching anime or dramas.
只看动漫或话剧不能让你的口语流利
Watching only anime or drama isn’t going to make fluent.
你需要学汉字语法,你需要练习,如果你想说好日语
You need to study kanji, and grammar and you need to practice if you want to speak well.
我遇到很多交换生
I’ve met many exchange students who believe that
相信如果他们看动漫和话剧足够多,总有一天他们会了解日语
if they watch anime or drama a certain amount of time, someday they’ll know Japanese.
我觉得这不是不可能,只是没什么效率
I don’t think it’s impossible, but it’s not that efficient.
无论如何,动漫只是动漫,戏剧也只是戏剧
No matter what, anime is anime, and drama is drama.
毕竟他们仅供娱乐
They’re for amusement, after all.
他们能成为学习材料,只要你
They can be a study material as long as you use them
积极使用他们,就像听写和跟读
actively for like dictation or shadowing.
至于漫画,如果你有最爱的漫画
And about manga, if you have favorite manga
尝试用你还在学的语言看
then try to read in the language you’re learning.
这些是我老婆让我借的
These are the ones my wife let me borrow.
死神Noooote
DEATH NOOOOTE!
这些真的很不错,如果你还没看过可以试一试
These are really good, if you haven’t read them then you should try.
他们全是用英文写的
And they’re all written in English.
嗯…
Um…
在看英文版之前我已经全都看过一遍了
I had read them all before I started reading the English version
因此我了解故事内容,能流畅地看下去
so I knew the story and I could read it smoothly
即使有很多我不认识的单词
even though there were many words I didn’t know.
我所需要做的是查阅我不理解的单词
All I needed to do was look up the words that I didn’t understand or know
用我的字典
with my dictionary.
顺便一提,我觉得你已经有了
By the way, I think many of you already have one of these, but for those of you who
但对那些没有的人
don’t,
我强烈推荐你买一个
I highly recommend you get one of these. This is called
它叫电子辞书
電子辞書
电子词典
electronic dictionary.
如果你在日本学习,你可能注意到了所有日本学生
If you study in Japan you’ll probably notice that all Japanese students have
都有一个
one of these.
他们通常在进入高中时就有了
They usually get one when they enter high school.
你查单词变得很容易,一些字典有一个特殊的传感器
You can look up words very easily. Some dictionaries have a special sensor so you can
把汉字写下来,它就能找到你要找的那个字
write in kanji and it finds the kanji you’re looking for.
如果你打算来日本留学,你可能需要一个
If you’re planning on studying abroad in Japan, you’ll probably need one of these.
但它有点贵,可能需要花费大概
But the thing is it’s kind of expensive. It costs somewhere between
15000到40000日元(200到450美元)
15000? to 40000? ($200 to $450)
我一些朋友
so some of my friends use the
在他们的智能手机里安装字典App
dictionary application on their iPhones or smart phones.
这很流行而且非常有用,你用它都不用联网
The popular ones are pretty useful and you don’t need to access the internet to use it
一旦你下载了它
once you download it.
正如你看到的,我成为了一个口语很好的人
As you can see, mine’s got a speaker
在这儿
and here
它能为你读出单词
so it pronounces the word for you.
容易携带,非常有用,这真是太好了
Easy to carry around and very useful. This is [f***ing] awesome.
因此无论如何
So anyway
想想你最想提高的技能,如果你还不清楚
think about the skill you want to improve the most first if you don’t know yet
尽量选择最好的方法去做
and try to choose the best way to go about it.
我一个朋友想成为漫画译者谋生
One of my friends wanted to be a manga translator for his living
因此当他在日本时,他每天看动漫
so while he was in Japan he watched anime every single day and came to me
过来问我问题
and asked me questions about
关于俚语或相异相似的单词
slang or differences of similar words,
或者只用于动漫漫画等的短语
or the phrases only used in anime and manga and stuff.
一个朋友,想在日本成为一名英语老师
And one wanted to be an English teacher in Japan and she wanted to be able to
她想要和学生更好的交流
communicate with her students better, so
因此她总是用日语和我交谈,请我告诉她
she always talked to me in Japanese and asked me to tell her
在日本有用的会话短语
useful and conversational phrases in Japan.
也许,只是也许,思考你为什么学习
So maybe, just maybe, thinking about why and for what you’re studying, before you open
在你打开教科书或开始看动漫之前可能会帮助你
textbooks, before you start watching anime, might help you.
感谢观看!
Thanks for watching!

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